Problem with retrofit

CW · #1 August 10th, 2001, 05:55 PM

I've been trying to retrofit a cruiser in a simutaneous game but I got this message in the log:

"Our vehicle (my ship's name) in system (place name) has not been retrofit, sire. The sizes of the two designs must be identical."

Well they ARE identical! (double checked!) The new design is just a slight upgrade to the existing, only one of the guns, an armour plate and a sensor got changed so the cost was a lot less than 50%. I tested the two designs in my solo game and it retrofit without a problem. What's the problem in the simutaneous game then?

Gimboid · #2 August 10th, 2001, 06:16 PM

Ive heard of where someone in simul. game retrofitted to someone elses design.

So perhaps u retrofitted to someone elses design, except the design was a different size to the cruiser u wanted it to be?

Matryx · #3 August 10th, 2001, 06:17 PM

I get this from time to time as well.
At first I thought it was becuase I included an extra Armour (thereby increasing size by 10Kt) but I cannot confirm this.
Any views anyone?

Gimboid: I've had my ships retrofitted to other people's designs in PBW games.. quite confusing.

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CW · #4 August 10th, 2001, 07:26 PM

Matryx, actually I DID add in a new armour plate. I pulled out the original scattering armour and put in a piece of stealth armour and a piece of organic armour. But then the size of the total components (and the hull too) remained the same anyway!

And Gimboid, I'm 100% sure that I refitted the ship to my intended new design, not another, not somebody else's. So the problem still remains.

Gimboid · #5 August 10th, 2001, 07:36 PM

The error wasnt a case of selecting an enemies design to retrofit to, all the people it happened to would select their own designs of course. Its just that when the turn processed, they got their ship retrofitted to someone elses design, even if they didnt have the techs on the design yet.

CW · #6 August 10th, 2001, 07:56 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Gimboid:
The error wasnt a case of selecting an enemies design to retrofit to, all the people it happened to would select their own designs of course. Its just that when the turn processed, they got their ship retrofitted to someone elses design, even if they didnt have the techs on the design yet.

So what was the solution?

geoschmo · #7 August 10th, 2001, 08:32 PM

There isn't one. It's a bug that has not been fixed yet.

Geo

capnq · #8 August 10th, 2001, 10:55 PM

Was the ship you were trying to retrofit part of a fleet? That's what I found was giving me that error; the program would try to retrofit the first ship listed in the fleet, rather than the ship that had been given the retrofit order.

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Slaughtermeyer · #9 August 10th, 2001, 11:10 PM

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Originally posted by capnq:
Was the ship you were trying to retrofit part of a fleet? That's what I found was giving me that error; the program would try to retrofit the first ship listed in the fleet, rather than the ship that had been given the retrofit order.

Don't be surprised if people now deliberately start putting ships into fleets in the hopes of getting new techs from enemy ship designs. Looks like we have another exploitable bug.

Suicide Junkie · #10 August 10th, 2001, 11:32 PM

No, not really. Any tech you don't have, you cannot repair. Since you are retrofitting, the new components will be damaged. Plus, you can't retrofit to a larger size, so you can't get that tech either,

You get nothing from retrofitting to an alien design.

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