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July 2nd, 2007, 02:01 AM
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A Question Banefire
What happens to affected units after battle. Do all units effected die after combat? Or just units with short life spans, or some kind of MR test? I'm having a heck of a time confirming just how effective it is..
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July 2nd, 2007, 02:29 AM
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Re: A Question Banefire
I've had demons survive it, so I'm guessing it has something to do with lifespan.
I think that there might be a number of turns after the battle is over where the dudes just sit around and chill.
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July 2nd, 2007, 07:29 AM
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Re: A Question Banefire
That's generally true of all persistent effects, including Decay and poison. Seems to be 5-10 rounds or so. You'll note that if a unit flees off the edge of the map while it's poisoned several green numbers pop up at once; if it's Decaying from banefire or something it will usually disappear in a puff of blood but that's the same thing.
(Note, incidentally, that mercs always die if they rout.)
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July 2nd, 2007, 11:21 PM
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Re: A Question Banefire
I find that banefire is fairly effective against demons myself.
In fact banefire and shadow blast seem to destroy demons much better than cleansing water that is actually designed to kill demons. go figure.
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July 2nd, 2007, 11:23 PM
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Re: A Question Banefire
banefire and shadowblast are also incredibly powerful evocations against just about anything. Cleansing water is really only effective against undead and imps.
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July 3rd, 2007, 12:20 AM
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Re: A Question Banefire
Well, that is my point. Since cleansing water is only effective against certain units, and it is evoc 6, it logically should have no peer in destroying demons.
How many demons have you seen survive banefire? Like none.
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July 3rd, 2007, 12:27 AM
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Re: A Question Banefire
Nothing is meant to survive banefire, thats the point. Cleansing water is far easier to cast and water has never been a particularly strong evocation school anyway.
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July 3rd, 2007, 12:41 AM
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Re: A Question Banefire
the damage the banefire spell does it great and usually kills outright if it hits something.
But does the Decay or whatever effect on units not actually directly hit by the banefire or by banefire Archers.. Always end in death?
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July 3rd, 2007, 12:43 AM
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Re: A Question Banefire
I've seen some units survive decay. Just not mortals or otherwise common units.
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July 3rd, 2007, 12:49 AM
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Re: A Question Banefire
"But does the Decay or whatever effect on units not actually directly hit by the banefire or by banefire Archers.. Always end in death?"
Decay has very little effect on demons, since they have extremely long lifespans. It does age them, however. I guess if they had 2 or 3 battles where they got hit with decay, they may suffer some negative effects.
But decay is a pretty inefficient way to deal with demons.
The damage from banefire(the spell) is typically so great that units do not survive it. I have seen horrors die to it in 1 round.
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