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Old December 10th, 2006, 08:53 PM

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OK, i just wished for the lord of the hunt and his age is 82(50), is that right?
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OK, i just wished for the lord of the hunt and his age is 82(50), is that right?

Nope, it isn't. There are many age problems, because most units just use the automated ages. Here is the list of strange starting ages in the first 999 units or so; I won't mind if someone else finishes the list.





Eternal Knights are thousands of years old... Maxage 20 000 is nice, but starting age 3650 isn't!

Mandaha aren't THAT eternal, with maxage 2000.

All unique summons and creatures should be changed to be very old and untouchable by time. Five Demon Lords, twice 3 Queens and twice two Kings of Elements, two corrupted Kings, Devourer of Souls

Thalassa, Queen of the Sea, 670/1000
Aella, Queen of Storms, 600/1000
Oreigenes, King of the Mountains, 635/2000
Pedoseion, Father Illearth, 89/100
Pyriphlogos, King of Flames, 600/1000
Barahtrus, King of Deeper Earth, 700/2000
Bathusma, Queen of the Deeps, 600/2000
Limne, Queen of the Lake, 700/2000
Antrax, King of Banefires, 800/2500
Catharsis, King of Magma, 800/1000
Thuella, Queen of Thunder, 600/1000
Nephele, Queen of Clouds, 700/1000


Buer, Lord of Hell, 1200/3000
Pazuzu, Lord of the Plague Wind, 1154/3000
900, Lord of Corruption, 1200/3000

Here are some commanders that could be old, or just rose to poewr relatively recently due to heavy competition:

Ice Devils, 306 and 821-825, from 500/1000 to 700/1000
Arch Devils, 305 and 826-829, from 600/1000 800/1000
Heliophagii, 492 and 818-820, from 600/1000 to 800/1000


Atlantians:
Coral Queen, 270/500
Deep King, 275/500
558, Seer King, 320/500 - "one of the most ancient of the mage kings"
622, Traitor King, 335/500 - "an ancient Atlantean king"
109, Dagon, 552/1000


Bone Fiend, 190/500 - They should be properly ancient. That is not dead which 190 years lies?

Fay Boar, 20/50

500, Skratti pretender, 250/500 as an ancient giant
785, normal Gygja, 350/300

Seasonal spirits, (511, 512, 513, 515) are all 60/150

Iron Dragons, Crushers and many others are 0 years old, Golems, Telestic Animates and Living Statues, Clay Men (471, 473, 474, 817) start several centuries old.

559, Firbolg, 31/50

Big elementals start old, but they become younger when they get smaller. Water:408-413, Earth: 493-498, Air: 567-571, Fire: 594-599, Ice: 831-836,

590, Vanlade the Hero, 800/1000 as an ancient Vanadrott
948, Vanadrott, 600/1000

605, Son of Niefel, 538/1000
844, Niefel Jarl, 748/1000

608, Phoenix, 280/500

609, Lamia Queen, 71/225 with 1 Nature

641, Ancient Presence, 440/500

644, Dracolich, 484/1000

C'tis Desert Tombs
special summons: 690, 691, 692, 693; maxage 500 and highest startage about 400
864, First King, 550/500


Carrion beasts are centuries old - LA Carrion Woods is supposed to be a new thing, so they shouldn't be that old. However, it'd be best if the age left time for the animal to have tied of a natural couse. ID 710-718, 861 for Ettin, 1093 for the Sagittarian Carcass


736-737 - Ether Warrior and Ether Lord, 400/1000

Tartarians: 771-777 seem to be about 400/1000 yyears.
Divine Mummy has maxage 500 - many pretenders start with about that amount. I think current age is preserved when Ritual of Rebirth is used, and in that case, the mummy might suffer from old age from the day it was created.

780, Lord of the Hunt, 86/175
812, Lord of the Wild, 600/2000

931, Ivy King, 625/5000

933, Mictlipoctli the King of Legends, 426/500
934, Quatzalcoatl serpent form, 140/187
935, Quetzalcoatl human form, 33/125 - however, uses serpent form's startage and is old!

943, Lu Tung-Pin the Immortal, 931/995

978 and 979, Great Black Bull and Great White Bull, 500/1500


980, Treelord (of Blood), 1000(3000
981, Dying Treelord, 4200/3500

106, Shadow Seer, 127/150 - not really outside space and time, it seems
390-391, Grey Knight and Grey Lord, 60/150

1020, Ghoul Guardian, 180/500
1019, Vampire Count, 350/1000
1021, Ghoul Baron, 326/500



Angels:
few centuries old, whereas Fallen Angel is 1000/2500 and seems to be ancient history




What seem to fit, and can be used as a comparison:
490, Djinn, 1725/1975
521, Abomination, 1057/6000
586, Angerboda the Great Hag, 1050/2000
614, Harpy Queen, 494/800
652, Void Lord, 4000/10 000
863, Apostatic Warrior, 87/180 fits a "young Pan"
977, Zirru the Grand Thaumaturg (C'tissian hero of MA Ermor), 200/150
973, Ancient Kraken, 2500/3000
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Nice list!

You've sent that list to IW of course, right Endo?
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Not yet. I'd like to finish it first. It seems I didn't get any volunteers, so I'll have to finish it myself.
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Yes, checking hundreds of units' ages is a huge task! Thanks for working on it!
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