Optimal Equipment for Water Queens

[deccan]

So, like, I generally know how to equip things like air queens, ice devils, bane lords etc., but I'm wondering what the experts here would consider optimal equipment for water queens for underwater combat? Non-artefacts only please and the intention is to take underwater indies solo or in Groups of two, and perhaps defend against water incursions by land nations.

[Zen]

Customary equipment for my Water Queens:

Blood Thorn (Hellsword)
Lucky Coin (None)
Marble Armor
Starshine Skullcap (Fire Helmet)
Ring of Tamed Lighning
Amulet of Antimagic (Ring of Fire/Lucky Amulet)

Usually if they are underwater only you don't worry about fire resistance or Amulets of the Fish. If not underwater you will have to drop one thing (usually MR) to drive up onto land.

[deccan]

Ah yes, the key here is what to put in the armor slot. Marble Armor provides good protection without sacrificing defense. I should have thought of that.

And oh, does Storm work underwater?

[Tuna]

and dont forget friendly currents/water ward/water shield

[Zen]

No, storm doesn't work underwater AFAIK. Though in recent light, perhaps there should be a "Tsunami" spell.

[Phoenix-D]

Zen said:
No, storm doesn't work underwater AFAIK. Though in recent light, perhaps there should be a "Tsunami" spell.

Which wouldn't work in water either. Tsuanmis are harmless once you get just a little ways off shore..

[Turin]

I put robes of invulnerability on my waterqueens. You should have some massive forgeboni though .

[Boron]

deccan said:
Ah yes, the key here is what to put in the armor slot. Marble Armor provides good protection without sacrificing defense. I should have thought of that.

Zen's suggestion is very good .

Other nice armors for WQs imo are :
-Armor of Souls , gives +5 Mr
-Robe of invulnerability
Copper plate can be worth being considered too because it gives you 100% SR so frees up 1 misc slot .
This misc slot can be nicely used by either burning pearl or ring of warrior or luck amulet or lycantrop amulet .

[Taqwus]

Lycantropos? Doesn't that force instant Berserk, which prevents the casting of Quickness? Added to that, there's the drawback of eventually turning into a skinshifter.

Armor of Souls is lovely, 'though, if you have the blood mages and blood slaves lying around, and the RoInv is decent -- although as it has no additional properties such as resistances, life-draining aura, speed, or whatever else, and Water Queens have 0 enc anyway, it might be reasonable to go with either the cheaper Marble Breastplate, or a more special armor.

Against indy tritons and thinking cheaper, I wonder how well a Shield of Gleaming Gold, a Snake Bladder Stick, a fear helmet, a rime hauberk, a dancing trident, and a luck pendant, would do. The underwater indy's aren't likely to Soul Slay or Enslave you *shrug*.

[Yossar]

Zen said:Usually if they are underwater only you don't worry about fire resistance or Amulets of the Fish. If not underwater you will have to drop one thing (usually MR) to drive up onto land.

Why shock resistance but not fire? Seems like rods of the phoenix would be a pretty decent way to take a water queen out.