.com.unity Forums
  The Official e-Store of Shrapnel Games

This Month's Specials

Raging Tiger- Save $9.00
winSPMBT: Main Battle Tank- Save $6.00

   







Go Back   .com.unity Forums > Illwinter Game Design > Dominions 2: The Ascension Wars

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old May 7th, 2004, 11:20 AM

Yossar Yossar is offline
Sergeant
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 365
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Yossar is on a distinguished road
Default Favorite assassin

I really like assassins. I used to think the R'lyeh Starspawn was worthless after paralyze was fixed, but he's now my favorite. Stick a lifelong protection on him and he's great (admittedly a bit hard to come by for R'lyeh - probably a blood-1 Random Starspawn or Sage with a ring of sorcery and wizardry/empowerment to get to blood-3). Unlike the other assassins he has the luxury of being able to paralyze anything the imps can't take care of themselves. He also has the flexibility of being able to throw on resist magic, body ethereal, personal luck, astral shield, etc., as needed. Personally, I've been using Resist Magic, Body Ethereal, Fire, but that can be changed up if you know what you'll likely be facing.

Actually, my favorite assassin is an Earth Elemental, but that doesn't really count

Question 1) If someone has flying bodyguards, will they fly at the assassin or stay by the commander? My guess is that they'd stay by the commander unless the assassin started firing at him, but I haven't seen flying bodyguards in a while.

Question 2) What's your favorite assassin?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old May 7th, 2004, 02:08 PM

Anglachel Anglachel is offline
Corporal
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Winter Park, Florida
Posts: 81
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Anglachel is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Favorite assassin

Favorite assassin? Mictlan's Lord of Night pretender. Read a thread a while back about him being able to assassinate and tried him out, pretty damn sweet and he brings two fiends into the assassination with him too. Perhaps a dubious use of a pretender but I'd rather see it as an extra tool.

[ May 07, 2004, 14:05: Message edited by: Anglachel ]
__________________
Where the lion's skin will not reach, you must patch it out with the fox's.
Plutarch
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old May 7th, 2004, 02:52 PM
Graeme Dice's Avatar

Graeme Dice Graeme Dice is offline
General
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Posts: 3,013
Thanks: 17
Thanked 25 Times in 22 Posts
Graeme Dice is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Favorite assassin

My favourite type of assasin is a Vampire Count with a black heart.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old May 7th, 2004, 05:00 PM
Taqwus's Avatar

Taqwus Taqwus is offline
Major General
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Mountain View, CA
Posts: 2,162
Thanks: 2
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Taqwus is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Favorite assassin

I'm fond of battlefield assassinations via mass-casting Ghost Riders when my Astral Windows or spies tell me a hapless AI pretender is out in the middle of a field away from a castle. Seriously, 'tho, Ethereal Stalkers are pretty nice if you can get them, albeit Chuzrael the Abysian Demonbred Slayer is much more entertaining.
A Heliophagus with a Black Heart and decent kit can also be unusually menacing, although not too stealthy IIRC. Black Hearts on high-stealth Glamour units could make for nigh-undetectable ones.
And if you allow mods... the Ashikagan Jonin, which I'm fond of prophetizing.
__________________
Are we insane yet? Are we insane yet? Aiiieeeeee...
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old May 7th, 2004, 09:39 PM
PvK's Avatar

PvK PvK is offline
National Security Advisor
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Posts: 8,806
Thanks: 54
Thanked 33 Times in 31 Posts
PvK is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Favorite assassin

I like Succubi, since occasionally I get something interesting and useful besides just a dead enemy.

How about a druid scripted to cast Swarm, just for grins?

PvK
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old May 7th, 2004, 09:53 PM
Gandalf Parker's Avatar

Gandalf Parker Gandalf Parker is offline
Shrapnel Fanatic
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Vacaville, CA, USA
Posts: 13,736
Thanks: 341
Thanked 479 Times in 326 Posts
Gandalf Parker is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Favorite assassin

Quote:
Originally posted by PvK:
I like Succubi, since occasionally I get something interesting and useful besides just a dead enemy.
Thats why I like Pandemoniums. 2 blood so they can cast "hellbind". If it works then you get a combat right after that of the commander fighting his own troops. If he was the Last commander then you watch his troops rout from him. You get the province and any equip the commander had.

Pans and Lord of the Hunt do almost the same thing. A combat follows the assassination as Maenads try to take the province. If you are using assassination for gaining provinces its at least TWICE as fast.
__________________
-- DISCLAIMER:
This game is NOT suitable for students, interns, apprentices, or anyone else who is expected to pass tests on a regular basis. Do not think about strategies while operating heavy machinery. Before beginning this game make arrangements for someone to check on you daily. If you find that your game has continued for more than 36 hours straight then you should consult a physician immediately (Do NOT show him the game!)
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old May 7th, 2004, 10:37 PM
PvK's Avatar

PvK PvK is offline
National Security Advisor
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Posts: 8,806
Thanks: 54
Thanked 33 Times in 31 Posts
PvK is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Favorite assassin

Nice techniques, Gandalf! Very nice... Hmm. So, if you wander through enemy provinces generating Maenads, the generated ones attack the province with no leader, and don't rout for having no leader?

What happens if you have a stealthy commander leading stealthy units, and that commander dies for some reason (such as a failed assassination)?

PvK
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old May 7th, 2004, 11:47 PM
Gandalf Parker's Avatar

Gandalf Parker Gandalf Parker is offline
Shrapnel Fanatic
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Vacaville, CA, USA
Posts: 13,736
Thanks: 341
Thanked 479 Times in 326 Posts
Gandalf Parker is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Favorite assassin

Quote:
Originally posted by PvK:
Nice techniques, Gandalf! Very nice... Hmm. So, if you wander through enemy provinces generating Maenads, the generated ones attack the province with no leader, and don't rout for having no leader?
They rout also. But Maenads have a high morale. And even if both sides rout you know its safe to attack with the assassin.

I forgot to mention, even if there are more commanders there the maenad attack is a nice way to look at who is left for assassination. Sometimes my response is "oops" and move on.

Quote:
What happens if you have a stealthy commander leading stealthy units, and that commander dies for some reason (such as a failed assassination)?
Hmmm I dont remember. I think they are lost as if they had routed to an unowned province.

[ May 07, 2004, 22:49: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]
__________________
-- DISCLAIMER:
This game is NOT suitable for students, interns, apprentices, or anyone else who is expected to pass tests on a regular basis. Do not think about strategies while operating heavy machinery. Before beginning this game make arrangements for someone to check on you daily. If you find that your game has continued for more than 36 hours straight then you should consult a physician immediately (Do NOT show him the game!)
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old May 8th, 2004, 01:02 AM
tinkthank's Avatar

tinkthank tinkthank is offline
Lieutenant Colonel
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,276
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
tinkthank is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Favorite assassin

1. I would have thought they'd fly at the assassin, since most bodyguards immediately attack an assassin. But I have not tested this.

2. My favorite is a slayer, since he actually has easy access to a lifelong protection (my very favorite assassin tool for months now) as well as a Rod of Incineration, my second favorite tool. He is also a bit more robust than the Star Child. But then again, Abysia is my favorite nation, and I suck at Ryleh, so I may be biased. A star child is certainly much more flexible than a slayer, since it can do anything a slayer can plus is a mage plus has mind bLast. But my slayer has stayed alive with a few HPs left where a Star Child would have been long since killed.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old May 8th, 2004, 01:11 AM
Gandalf Parker's Avatar

Gandalf Parker Gandalf Parker is offline
Shrapnel Fanatic
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Vacaville, CA, USA
Posts: 13,736
Thanks: 341
Thanked 479 Times in 326 Posts
Gandalf Parker is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Favorite assassin

Only assassin assassins? no built ones? I guess I still like Ctis with the slings and the magic

But built, I love Pangaen assassins. Pans, Pandemoniacs, and the Lord of the Hunt
__________________
-- DISCLAIMER:
This game is NOT suitable for students, interns, apprentices, or anyone else who is expected to pass tests on a regular basis. Do not think about strategies while operating heavy machinery. Before beginning this game make arrangements for someone to check on you daily. If you find that your game has continued for more than 36 hours straight then you should consult a physician immediately (Do NOT show him the game!)
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:20 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1999 - 2024, Shrapnel Games, Inc. - All Rights Reserved.