Gandalf Parker and the SEIV Forum

[tesco samoa]

Gandalf Parker.

I have read in the OT- Passion of Christ thread the following statement

This thread is nearing the point where someone may be forced to show their wrath and erase all of the unchosen which sully the world which is forum. (threads which are OT)

For if it does make the world unfriendly to those who have sought it out for its declared purpose, only to find it a den of iniquity, then it too shall fade from the world

And from other Posts in other threads that you have decided to join our community here and then change it to your shaping


Why is this ?

Does the Malfador Machinations threads bother Aaron ? Or are they offending the SE community?

I am asking this because I am concerned about a forum that I have been visiting for a few years now. I have made many friends here. Enjoyed passionate dicussions about far reaching topics and enjoyed the se game.


The SEIV forum has 4 Moderators. But it has become a self moderated forum. When people ask questions about the game. We answer. We do not tell them to use the search.

We debate everything that is important.

We accept new members with open arms. Not questioning who some one is or their level of importance by post counts.

Anyways that is my banter. As I am a little upset by the trend in your Posts as you have became a regular here just lately and it seems you have your mind set up on what our community should be without our input.

You should keep in mind that the SEIV game is getting a little grey on the shelf life and to make this place strictly on topic will kill this community.

Which I think will affect the growth of SEV.


Are the hard core SE fans and the years of growth worth that much ?

I would like to know.

Simon Baxendale

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Edit: spelling of "Gandalf" in subject

[ May 29, 2004, 21:59: Message edited by: Suicide Junkie ]

[Captain Kwok]

Tesco, I completely agree.

This is a very tight knit group and it's only expected that'd it be one of the first places you might seek to discuss important world issues, get tips on your new computer options, and of course, all you need to know about SE:IV.

[David E. Gervais]

I agree with tesco, I have been here for 3 years now and have made many friends and enjoy the many topics posted here. (both On-Topic and Off-Topic)

I'm sure that the regulars here are mature enough to decide weather or not to reply to Off-Topic Posts.

One thing I can tell you, the On-topic Posts are given top priority by all the people that come here. Questions asked by first time players or veterans alike are quickly answered. We do not simply point them to the FAQ, the 'veterans' of se4 are allways eager to share their experience.

Further, we have a great group of Moderators and they are quick to point out when things get out of hand. (which is an extremely rare thing in this forum.)

I'm an artist, and a gameplayer. I often like to share my knowledge about the tools of the trade and enjoy talking about topics other than just se4. I found that many of the 'regulars' that frequent here have similar interests. I drop by here every day, and although I don't post every day, I do scan the various topics. Having 'OT' threads is always a welcome diVersion.

anyway, nuf said.

Cheers!

[Arkcon]

Gandalf, if you poke around, you'll see we're never hostile to people who are new to the game, or have a new found interest in mods, or in modding themselves. There's never a shortage of help for those sort of questions.

We're getting a little bit more OT lately, probably 'cause as SE4 patches have stopped, and SE5 is still a long way away.

I think this forum is a pretty cool place to come to hear about science, science fiction, computer science and what have you. This is a real friendly bunch, flames and trolls simply don't exist here. And that's totally unique in cyberspace.

Also, the comment in question,

This thread is nearing the point where someone may be forced to show their wrath and erase all of the unchosen which sully the world which is forum. (threads which are OT)

For if it does make the world unfriendly to those who have sought it out for its declared purpose, only to find it a den of iniquity, then it too shall fade from the world

also, in the Evil Overlord thread ...

With the power and authority vested in me by admin access to edit or delete any post or thread; Im afraid that my Evil-Overlord'ness wins. I can make any previous claims *poof* as if they had never existed. MUHAHAHAhahahahahahha

Seems a little harsh on us all. If you're going to wear the Admin hat, maybe you should consider being more direct and simple in the comments. If we're eating up Shrapnel resources with all this OT stuff, then just say so directly.

If you just want to hang and kid around like all the rest of us, well, jump on in and have a bLast.

Just a 2/100 of a buck from a guy who never reads the political threads.

[ May 29, 2004, 04:26: Message edited by: Arkcon ]

[Fyron]

I should point out that at least half of my Posts have been used to answer people's questions posted by veterans and newbies alike, often within a short time frame of them posting. Same with Suicide Junkie and Geoschmo, who are 2 other top posters on the Intel Forums. Why do we do this? Because it is an awesome community.

[Atrocities]

Hey guys its ok. I don't think he meant it the way it sounds. Either way I am sure that reason and time will provide for an atomsphere of understanding.

[ May 29, 2004, 04:18: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

[Fyron]

Just so there is no confusion, Gandalph Parker is the new:

Director of Community Relations and Tech Advisor for Shrapnel Games Inc

[Atrocities]

I don't know what to say about what is going on. I simply have no information. As a moderator I am often the very Last person to know anything.

If it was my call, I would leave the forum alone. Simply put it has survived and thrived because of the people who have come here since 2000.

If change is made I know that it will kill what we have here and when that day comes, I will no longer post here.

But I am optomisitc that if the new Director of Community Relations and Tech Advisor for Shrapnel Games Inc knows how we feel, then perhaps he will agree not to make any changes.

This is our community, but it is shrapnels forum. So in the end, it is their call and the call of the person to whom they have placed in charge. Like it or not change happens.

So by all means let him know how you feel, but please also understand that there are two sides to every coin.

Lets be honest and see what happens.

[mac5732]

I have read Gandolf's post, and I must say it disheartens me to see that this forum may be going the way of many others on the net. This place is unique in many ways as well as being the most friendly, and enjoyable place to be. We have all made new friends, had good laughs, joked around, had good times and enjoyed a brewski or two together. To tamper with something that has been a resounding success as forums goes should be given very heavy thought as well as discussion with Shrapnel, MM and who ever.

If you have read our forum, then you will see that even tho there are OT's the majority of discussion and Posts concern SE4 and its mods.

How many Mods have you made of SE4 Gandolf?? I don't see your handle listed in any of the threads answering questions or keeping a conversation going..

If you go ahead with what you are saying imho you will kill this forum and it wil die a slow death. You might have new people come here, but answer me this.. Who will answer their questions, not only on the game but on the mods if most leave. In addition, how many new mods will be made or those in existance made better if you turn people off with restrictions?

There is an old saying. "If its not broke, Don't fix it". That says it all

just my 2 cents

just some ideas, an upset Mac

[Deathstalker]

This forum has been my homepage since the early days of se4 (before any patches). Its been the best community I've belonged to. I used to frequent the DC Comics message Boards and the Wizards of the Coast magic Boards (MTGO) and have since left both due to over moderation (esp when DC erased all the 911 threads as they did not refrence 'comics').

my 2cents, leave the community the way it is please. The rest of life is quite full of regulations and expectations and its nice to have a place that is both professional (se4 related) and friendly(the ot Posts etc).

Best way to tell how good the community is...when was the Last time you saw a Troll around here?? And even then the situation was resolved much more maturely then any Boards I've seen.