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Old July 11th, 2006, 06:13 PM

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Default SE5 screenshots ugly?

Is it just me or are the many of the SE5 screenshots shown quite ugly?

I'm particularly talking about the ground based battles screen shots. They look rather terrible IMO, worse than many Amiga games I used to have way back in the 80s! The other screen shots of space activity look ok-ish although I think the look of the GUI looks pretty ugly as well. I think SE4's GUI looked far nicer than the one shown here.

I obviously cant talk about the gameplay and certainly the real time fleet battles shown look quite promising, but I certainly hope these arent final shots. I cant imagine staring at that GUI for very long at all! I could probably put up with the ground battle graphics looking so bad as they probably dont happen all that regularly.

MM should take a look at Gal Civ 2's ground attack screen to see how it should look. And seriously folks put some work into the look of the GUI before August!

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Old July 11th, 2006, 07:43 PM
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Default Re: SE5 screenshots ugly?

As a minor point, SE4 dosen't really have any UI relating to ground combat.
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Old July 11th, 2006, 08:03 PM

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Default Re: SE5 screenshots ugly?

Personally, I see nothing wrong with the UI in SEV at all. If I was, I'd have stopped playing the game with SEII
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Old July 11th, 2006, 08:08 PM
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Default Re: SE5 screenshots ugly?

Keep in mind that the ground combat in SE5, unlike that in GalCiv2, is not just "two opposing walls of troops lining up and shooting lasers at each other", though - it actually has quite a few elements of (someone will flame me for this, but I don't care - it's true) real-time strategy games, so ground combat is almost a minigame in itself - perhaps an ugly one, but the underlying model is far better than GalCiv2's "the one with the best multipliers wins, and perhaps having more troops will help" or even SE4's "invisible walls of troops which are at least individually represented" model!
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Default Re: SE5 screenshots ugly?

Some of the ugliness is the angle and compression of the screenshots, plus the fact that the 3d models are low on polys to allow most older systems to run the tactical combat without needing a speedy/costly video card.

The fact is that you can just skip over the visual tactical combat and just use the auto resolve strategic mode.
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Default Re: SE5 screenshots ugly?

Well, performance & gameplay > graphics is how I see it. If it was up to me the game would still be in 2D, to avoid spending resources on other things than gameplay. As such I'm glad they at least didn't choose to spend alot of resources on the new graphics.

As for the UI, I partially agree. I don't like the lower-right button-window, and I'd prefer if the end-turn button was on the lower-right of the screen.
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Default Re: SE5 screenshots ugly?

Oh, me too.
SE4's graphics are great, IMO. They do the job of informing me about what is going on in the game, fast and efficiently. So much so that I can play it on my P-166 laptop anywhere, anytime.
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Well, performance & gameplay > graphics is how I see it. If it was up to me the game would still be in 2D, to avoid spending resources on other things than gameplay. As such I'm glad they at least didn't choose to spend alot of resources on the new graphics.
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If it was up to me the game would still be in 2D, to avoid spending resources on other things than gameplay.
I wish I knew where this fallacy first arose that a computer game cannot have both good graphics and good gameplayl; this incorrect belief that having one of them means that not enough time was spent on the other. It's got very little grounding in reality.
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Old July 14th, 2006, 04:50 AM

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Default Re: SE5 screenshots ugly?

I never figured it looked that bad to some people. I've been working very hard on SE5 weapon and planet graphics. I know that those in charge of other graphical divisions have as well. All one can give is their best, nothing more.
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