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[Verjigorm]

Nagot gick fel!

Cannot find a valid starting province.

All of the provinces (including the ones indicated in your post) on the map file that has been uploaded in the OP are marked No Start.

[chrispedersen]

!!!!??? I started 5-6 games with full users.
Did you look at crown?

Now, there is one potential issue: Vanheim (iirc) needs a coastal location. As I recall I put in three of them. However, if all the coastal locations are taken (by other races) you will get a Nagock error.

I wonder if putting Vanheim in as the first nation helps...

[chrispedersen]

Originally Posted by pyg

Hmmm, all the VP are in the water or across the water. Additionally it seems that having them all together will make them closer to a few nations and far away from most. I'm still fine playing on the map as it is currently because I'm playing a fun nation to have fun, but this seems less fair to me than victory by concession or evenly distributed VPs with the majority on land.

You are exactly correct pyg. I'd have the same problem. I spent more than 8 hours correcting neighbor provinces, and figuring out potential starting points.

So I think its OK for a starting game - but I really would like the feedback if other people can improve the starting locations.

Finding 13 start locations all with fair neighbor count and all equidistant from the center is, on this map, impossible I think. It might be better to let further nations have more neighbors, or a pop bonus etc.

[Peacekeeper]

why not move the 5 victory points out of the water provinces to land ones that surround the middle lake? like 127, 74, 60, 88 and 132.

[Verjigorm]

NVM my above post, I think it was a water start.

[chrispedersen]

Originally Posted by Peacekeeper

why not move the 5 victory points out of the water provinces to land ones that surround the middle lake? like 127, 74, 60, 88 and 132.

First, because it makes the nostart area even bigger.

Second, as we are all land nations, and water is widely held to be weak, this will boost the utilty of the water school (and be a challenge).

[Cammorak]

I may be doing something wrong, but I've tried loading 5 games with 13 players and 2 games with 12 players, all of which Nagocked.

[Pablomatic]

Pretender submitted.

[pyg]

Originally Posted by Cammorak

I may be doing something wrong, but I've tried loading 5 games with 13 players and 2 games with 12 players, all of which Nagocked.

Don't use random AIs. You have to individually select land nations because there aren't enough/any water starts. Best for testing to select the nations that are playing. If it crashes in tests then, that's interesting.

[GrudgeBringer]

We have as of Friday night 4/9/10 10 Pretenders submitted