Thuggity Thug [efficient thug builds]

[thejeff]

Black Servants have life drain right? I'd drop Firebrand and stick with the native life drain.

Luck Amulet instead of the Medallion. Horror Helm if you can.

[Shovah32]

Correct me if im wrong but black servants still have only 13 MR correct? Not a particularly good idea to invest alot in a low health, low mr undead unit.

[mivayan]

Rytek said:
Sloth 3 is a no brainer because White centaurs are so cheap resource wise compared to black centaurs and the white centaurs are just as effective vs independents for early expansion.

nitpick: black and white centaurs are *identical*. And both cost 12 res. LA lacks the sweet non-sacred 12-resource centaur warriors though.

Ydirbut - an amulet of antimagic is nice if facing priests or astral nations.

[HoneyBadger]

Amulet of antimagic is nice, period, when building any kind of thug, sc, etc. just for the fact that so many deadly abilities-petrification, charm, etc. are blocked by high MR.

If you've got a unit under 15 MR minimum, you shouldn't build it (give it items, make it a prophet, empower it, etc.) without including atleast 1 MR boosting item.
Personally, I like my SCs to have over 20.

[Shovah32]

22 Seems a fairly good number. Its certainly not unstoppable(as my batteries of magic monkeys casting soul slay will tell you) but it makes you resistant to most basic mages and pretty much makes sure you wont get blasted to death when raiding(unless they are prepared for 22 MR they probably wont have anything on hand straight away to deal with it).
It is annoying, however, when one of your SCs with 22 MR, full resistances, regen, huge reinvigoration and various other buffs goes against a single B3F1(or W1) caster and dies at the cost of 2 blood slaves.

[General_Jah]

Meglobob said:

The jade armour gives quickness.

Its Faerun (Edi's fix), check out the Dom3 scenarios, maps and mods subforum.

The script for this guy is Charm, charm, charm, charm, charm, cast spells. Charms the only spell he can cast, so guess what he does?

With the quickness he casts 2 charms per combat round at +5 penetration. This costs 10 enc, the boots give 4 reinvig. So in the first 17 combat rounds he casts 34 charm spells. He then slows down somewhat due to being over 100 enc.

forgive my noobness but how does this guy cast charm? It takes nature 3 right?

[Amhazair]

It's the helmet. The guy is wearing the artifact Crown of Overmight or somesuch, which allows you to cast the charm spell.