MBT's

[DRG]

1. Yes

2. OK

3. Interesting....

[FASTBOAT TOUGH]

Sorry wrong missile, should be MILAN.
http://www.military-today.com/apc/marder.htm

However these are more up to date pictures now I wonder if it's just a TI/GSR gun-site or to a lesser degree of confidence, a laser range finder which it's equipped with as well. The second (Use arrow head scroll right side of picture frame.) seems to show a better view and it looks like there's a glass reflection on that "extension". Didn't copy the picture to avoid any legal issues, nothing says however I can't post the site.
http://tank-masters.de/?page_id=296

Arty Observer same turret, offering more views...
http://tank-masters.de/?page_id=4787

Going back to SIPRI forgot MILAN is French ...
Alright, had already done a missile search for Germany none transferred btwn 2010-2016. Did the same search for France (MILAN) and Israel (SPIKE) under the "Missiles" category France did indeed have missile transfers during this period in anti-ship
and SAM areas the following is the only armor related missile...I added the "Ordered" and "Delivered" to avoid confusion...
"(136) Mistral Portable SAM (Ordered2012) Delivered 2013-2016/(136) For use with ATLAS launchers on Komodo APC produced in Indonesia."

I think it's a TI/GSR Gun-sight. I can't find anything about Indonesia got them with a portable mounted ATGW system in the limited time I have right now. This after a web search for the same.

Even the one's Jordan just received or are about to receive are not ATGW equipped. But are the same configured ones from Germany as Indonesia got.

I gotta go!! It's my Friday!!!!

Regards,
Pat

[DRG]

already covered in German OOB by unit 53 but I have added a + version to the Marder 1 A5

[FASTBOAT TOUGH]

It would appear based on Chinese sources in Late June 2017 during a news conference confirmed reports that they were testing their "new" light tank in Tibet. Not sure when this was deemed operational, but, this might change that date. This tank is being developed for high altitude ops, and as I pointed when this tank first appeared on the radar a few yrs. back, it's intended to fight India. Look at the map.
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com...w/59369545.cms
https://www.armyrecognition.com/weap...the_tibet.html
https://thediplomat.com/2017/10/chin...ew-light-tank/
(Read the article and don't get caught up in it's title. PJC)
http://www.defenseworld.net/news/202...T_5_Light_Tank
(Kind've missed the mark though with the picture.PJC)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQtH4L0LsDM
(VT-5 Export version. With a 1000hp engine and at 30-35 tons it'll fly.PJC)
https://www.armyrecognition.com/chin..._11711164.html

Both are in the final phases of development the VT-5 I believe is a little closer due to it's income potential. Bangladesh apparently is close or has signed a contract to get them.

Regards,
Pat

[redcoat2]

The official Chinese media confirmed that the new light tank was operational earlier this month (see post #716). It might have been operational at the time of the exercise in Tibet.

It is said to be deployed with a unit in Tibet at the moment - and I've read that there are plans to deploy it near the Vietnamese frontier as well. It would be suited to the terrain in both regions.

[FASTBOAT TOUGH]

All I can say is those articles from the 18th of this month are saying "tested" or "deployed for testing/or similar for the sake of accuracy. PJC", I'm not putting words in anyone's mouth here. All the equipment sites I use don't show any country users at this point. And by the way they all are quoting from military spokes person or newspapers.
http://www.military-today.com/tanks/...light_tank.htm
http://www.military-today.com/tanks/vt5.htm
https://www.armyrecognition.com/chin..._11711164.html

And...
https://scout.com/military/warrior/A...Tank-107470050

From the above and others already submitted...
In June 2017, the Chinese periodical Guancha reported (Like SPUTNIK is for the Russian Military.) that the Xinqingtan (literally “New Light Tank”), a mountain-going tank formerly known by the equally generic appellation ZTQ-105, had entered trials in Tibetan Plateau. The newspaper characterized these as “a show of force designed to deter the Indian military,” while a military spokesman stated on June 29 they were “aimed to test the tank’s performance and are not targeted at any country.”

I don't see how you can read into any of those refs. or equipment sites (Check the Data Blocks) that they are operational at this time. Not unusual to move equipment around different parts of the country when terrain and weather conditions vary so much. Some countries even will go so far, but very rarely, to test equipment in other countries usually for op eval after being down selected by a potential buyer.

It took years of testing for the India's ARJUN tank before it became operational. That tank like the Chinese one visited every part of the country for months at a time to determine where it's potential could be best used. Lord knows I posted enough on that tank and process. It might be worth a little time and research to visit that topic as India was MUCH MORE forth coming on that tank than China will ever be on theirs.

I stand by my original post until someone "can show me the money", well it's that time-have a good day!

Regards,
Pat

[redcoat2]

Originally Posted by FASTBOAT TOUGH

All I can say is those articles from the 18th of this month are saying "tested" or "deployed for testing/or similar for the sake of accuracy. PJC", I'm not putting words in anyone's mouth here. All the equipment sites I use don't show any country users at this point. And by the way they all are quoting from military spokes person or newspapers.
http://www.military-today.com/tanks/...light_tank.htm
http://www.military-today.com/tanks/vt5.htm
https://www.armyrecognition.com/chin..._11711164.html

I see one of the sources you are quoting is armyrecognition.com. They claimed that the 'Xinqingtan' was in service with the Chinese armed forces back in January this year:

https://www.armyrecognition.com/janu..._10401171.html

Maybe they were right. Hard to tell. The photos were from unofficial Chinese sources and show a few tanks in Guilin - which indicates that they were being delivered to the PLA's Southern Theatre Command. But they may only have been there for testing in Guangxi Province near the Vietnamese border.

Janes's take on the photos:

http://www.janes.com/article/66681/c...new-light-tank

They claimed that the Chinese were 'possibly' equipping their units with the new tank.

[DRG]

I'll change gears a bit .....

This is for those of you that ( try ) to keep track of what the Russians are working on

I don't want to make any assumptions BUT.......is the T-90M what we represent now as Unit 59 T-90AM Tagil ( but which military-today refers to as the T-90MS Tagil and also goes on to say "T-90M is a proposed upgrade of the Russian Army's T-90 tanks. The T-90M uses a number of similar components as the T-90MS. It was first publicly revealed in 2017. Deliveries might begin in 2018.".....??

or are they separate developments? One thing I did read was the 'M' will use the same gun as the T-14 and I have changed unit 59 to that as well

I **think** they are, in game terms, the same with the gun upgraded

T-90AM=T-90MS=T-90M

??

[FASTBOAT TOUGH]

This should get you started and again, affiliated with the Ontario Tank Regiment Museum. Look at the "Evolution" section and bottom of article I general status in Russian Army and direction of T-90 family gearing more towards export.
http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/mo...a/T-90_MBT.php

T-90A/M/S according to ref. 1 are all the same tank with the "S" denoting export.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/russ...ical_data.html
http://www.janes.com/article/73927/r...m-t-80bvm-mbts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UflYhAsqeWg

That's all I have time for. And you know why!?!

Regards,
Pat

[DRG]

I did note the change in the CMG to 12.7 mm and that is now in the game