The Artifacts Game - [ HOLY S**T MICAH WON!! ]

[WraithLord]

I hear you my friend.
Still, I don't see anything wrong in bringing ppl who are excited at playing to the game.
I'm not a crazy MM lover myself, far from it. With Mari already having a sub and with possible additional subs the late game may return to be exciting. All I say it is give it a chance instead of outright burying it.

I don't think the final outcome is that obvious. Once it becomes obvious I don't plan to waste one more second on the game, I'd concede in a heartbeat. In my best of judgment that is not the case.

[Micah]

How much off-the-record income would I have to have in order for you to concede, Wraith? Just toss out a number and I'll let you know if I'm there or not.

[WraithLord]

150-200 S income.
150 < E income.

I have between 1/2 and 2/3 income in those departments.

I don't think that's the issue though. You are clearly in a leading position now.
We already have a sub for Mari. I am sure that with additional subs the game would resume, would be interesting and your leading position may change.
I was reflecting on this from a philosophical point of view. Where should the line be drawn and a game be stopped?- When most players lose interest?- When the game reached turn 100?- When one players is leading but a small/medium/big margin?

On the one hand the answer is clear cut. The game’s victory conditions.
OtoH, games are meant to be fun. Sometimes the two contradict, like in this case b/c clearly the game is not fun for most of the current players.
I usually fight to the end and the only way I accept defeat is when I’m checkmated. Not the case here – one or more of the subs may try to counter you, I would probably give it a try as well and the outcome of such hypothetical clash is not predetermined.

I’d tell you what, you decide, if you are fed up with this game and wish me to concede I will do that. Out of respect for you and for the other players that prefer to concede.
If, OtoH, you wish to see how it plays out with subs then I’ll be happy oblige
Please consider carefully which of the two you really prefer. I’ll comply with your preference.

[WraithLord]

We have a willing sub for Ulm - Wokeye.

So now we have 2/3 of the stronger nations with a sub. I'm certain we'll find a sub for Utgard as well and possibly for Midgard. I see plenty of juice left in the game yet I stand by my statement in the earlier post.

[slayers_ai]

i havent been in the game, so i have no idea now

and...i just try to have some fun...so...really have not much to say

[Lingchih]

I will be turning Midgard AI on Saturday night, unless I am informed a sub has been found for them. I will go with current turn orders until then, which are extremely aggressive in summoning and recruiting.

If no sub is found, I will change the orders to pass all my relevant items and gems to Micah, who I consider the winner, and then set Midgard to AI.

Good game all, and lots of fun.

[Micah]

Well, I'd most certainly prefer to get the game done with, and I'm pretty confident I have a solid strategy to take me to a win at this point, but I don't want to cram a concession down anyone's throat either, so if that means I have to play it out I'll do so. I do think swapping out the cast of vets that is leaving the game for a bunch of much greener players changes the tone of the game significantly though (just look how fast Agartha was carved up when Ironhawk subbed out, I think I took over the third of the nation I claimed without a single significant casualty.) But at least that means things will move along a lot faster.

As I've been saying for a while, I've worked too hard at this game to want it to end in anything but a clear victory, so if you're not convinced I'll keep soldiering along.

[WraithLord]

Micah, I really appreciate your response and thank you for it.

I agree with your assessment and think its probably for the best. The faster the game ends with clear victory the better.

If, as expected, you'd crush us all into submission I'd be very happy for you. It would be a clean, well deserved victory coming, hopefully, after some spectacular battles.

You know I recently had a similar experience in two games I was playing. I thought I had a huge advantage but for some reason that was not enough to get a concession. In one game for example I even went to the length of sending screenshots of my income to my main opponent (one of the best players I have met) to demonstrate my huge advantage, but he chose to fight on until the victory became clear. I think the game lasted 2-3 additional months of ferocious world war. It was hard work for me, but I felt it was right to take it to the end and leave no doubts about what could have been.

[Wokeye]

Greetings to all Usurpers to the rightful throne of Ulm. The new rulers have come to power with a combination of treachery, positioning and a healthy dose of maniacal laughter.

Looking forward to the challenges that lie ahead. There is much blood to be drunk, after all.

Any who hold existing alliances with Ulm and who wish to maintain them please contact the new management.

[Psycho]

I'll take Midgard.