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February 17th, 2003, 03:39 PM
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Re: OT - Good sci fi TV shows?
Hey, anyone remember Starfleet or Terrahawks?
Terrahawks was cool but I just loved Starfleet, if only for the riproaring Eddie Van Halen led themetoon and the fact that the battle scenes looked like a bad cross between 1920's Buck Rogers and Thunderbirds.. you could even see the strings holding up the models!!!
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February 17th, 2003, 07:00 PM
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Re: OT - Good sci fi TV shows?
Starship Troopers: I never read the book, so I can't really comment on how well it held up to that, but as a film in its own right I liked it for reasons already stated. Robocop was OK too, but I haven't watched that in a loooong time.
Wilma Deering: Off-think, off-think...
Terrahawks: Deserves eternal respect if only for the contribution of the venerable Windsor Davies (Sgt Major Zero). See http://tv.cream.org/ for a nostalgic overview of Terrahawks. Remember the noughts and crosses game at the end of each episode? I used to have the theme as an mp3 but I think I must have lost it...
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I dream of the day when their is a scifi show where they go... Hey we only have a core following... lets make a complicated story that the average joe will not understand throw in some really good plot twists... and not worry about the tokin 30 second ship shot
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This would be cool. I think the current LOTR series of films (although obviously not sci fi) is a step in this direction. When all 3 films are done and all the extra DVD footage and everything added it will be getting on for 10 hours. Although there have been certain necessary compromises toward the mainstream, I think this film represents a recognition that "core following" films are probably the way things are going to go. As mainstream culture fragments further and further into subcultures (something the internet has promoted, by allowing people to define their social circles according to interest rather than geographic constraints), different styles of film/ media will emerge, tailored to these audiences. Probably.
Basically, what I'm saying is people are starting to realise that some of us want to see entertainment that goes beyond the 45 minute tv/ 180 minute movie formats. I think Hollywood needs to look East for inspiration: In India they aren't scared of making films 5 or 6 hours long about all their religious stories and folklore=-)
The other thing is that as video cameras and editting/ rendering technology and stuff become more usable and affordable, and as bandwidth increases, you'll see more and more home-grown films being released on the web. These will probably break from conventional formats and techniques in all kind of interesting ways.
A small example: http://www.robotbastard.com - for a 40 meg download you get 15 minutes of mad retro-tech scifi mayhem from the guy who brought you "Scud: Disposible Assassin". Highly recommended.
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February 17th, 2003, 07:44 PM
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Re: OT - Good sci fi TV shows?
The one thing I think it is safe to say, without fear of criticism, is that "Starship Troopers - The Film" bore awfully little resemblance to "Starship Troopers - The Book".
The Bugs in the book used weapons, flew spaceships and as I recall, didnt rip people limb from limb or slaughter cows or anything...
Dizzy Flores was actually a bloke, and not the totty Caspar Van Dien gets off with. Dont know where Denise what's-her-face came into things in the book. If she did, she had a minor role
The starship troopers also wore augmented robotic suits.
The list goes on.
Dont get me wrong, I like the movie. I even bought it on DVD.
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February 17th, 2003, 10:37 PM
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February 17th, 2003, 10:44 PM
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Re: OT - Good sci fi TV shows?
Fav. Shows of all time.
Not in any order
DS9 : The one where the Rolumans are brought into the war.
STNG : Yesterday's Enterprise
BAB5: The one where the Earth Destroyer forces attacks BAB5
ST: The one where they meet the romulans for the first time
Voyager : 5 years of hell ( or how many years it was ) or the one where the doctor is in the future and must tell his side of the story
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February 18th, 2003, 03:50 AM
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Re: OT - Good sci fi TV shows?
I read Starship Troopers probably about 25-30 years ago, so even I don't remember the plotline of the book. Just the opening chapter is the only thing I still remember. I would have reread the book when the movie came out, but I think it's at my mom's house in Oklahoma. I didn't feel like rebuying the book when I already have a copy. But I loved the movie. Has anyone seen those animated shows based on it? I haven't, but I plan on getting them eventually.
I would like to see movies based on classics, but in that time period. Case of point: War Of The Worlds. This is the book that turned me into a hardcore sci-fi nut. I read it when I was about ten years old, and I became so enamored with it that I couldn't put it down. I would love to see a movie based on the book set in the 1890's. The movie made in the 50's was good, but sometimes the source book is much better than what Hollywood can come out with after all of the compromises that must be done to make a movie. At least Peter Jackson is trying to be faithful to the spirit of the Ring trilogy. I heard somewhere that there was going to be a War of the Worlds movie that was going to be made, but then 9-11 happened and it was put on a back burner. Then a few months ago I read that Tom Cruise might star in a WOTW movie. Although I'm not all that enamored with Tom Cruise, if his name is attached to a project, maybe it will come out. Hopefully it's set in the past, not the future. And please, no remake of that god-awful TV show.
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February 18th, 2003, 04:24 AM
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Re: OT - Good sci fi TV shows?
late 80's/early 90's they did a remake of war of the worlds for holloween night. they did it as if the earth was being invaded similiar to the original orson wells radio play. it had actual news people portraying themselves.
ufo enters atmosphere and is shot down. aliens respond by sending a asteroid on collision with earth. space base missiles are used to destroy asteroid at Last minute. while everyone is congratulating themselves they pan to norads space tracking screen and it shows hundreds of asteroids on collision course. turns out the aliens were friendly until we shot down the ufo. there were lots of "special reports" during the program as if they reporting on a ufo crash and the followup investigation. it was enjoyable. i would have liked it better if it was actually on multiple channels.
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February 18th, 2003, 05:17 PM
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Re: OT - Good sci fi TV shows?
Glenn Beck, a talk-show host, did a remake of the radio production of War of the Worlds just Last Holloween. It was actually pretty good.
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February 18th, 2003, 08:34 PM
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Re: OT - Good sci fi TV shows?
Battlestar Galactica is being played this entire week on Sci-Fi. Funny how some SEIV rules seen to be working there.
1)Fighters rule...apparently because point-defense isn't really very good. Which mod is that?
2)Cargo CAN carry population. (Colonial Movers "We move anywhere" ship is nothing but cargo holds)
3)Clearly Galactica is in a P&N mod...they're always picking up supplies and moving along.
4)Cylons must have dropped their aggressiveness and defensiveness traits to get the emotionless and hardy industrialists traits. They can't hit anything and get blown away in massive numbers, but apparently can build LOTS.
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February 18th, 2003, 08:59 PM
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Re: OT - Good sci fi TV shows?
Speaking of BG, have you heard the latest on the remake? There's supposed to be a female Starbuck. That's something I can't picture. A female Boomer maybe, but not Starbuck! Although she's probably a babe, but to play Starbuck she'd almost have to play it like a cigar-chomping butch type.
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