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March 16th, 2007, 09:02 PM
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Re: Vietnam Specific OOBs
For those of you who are interested, I've just released an Alpha of the Total Conversion here: http://www.gamesquad.com/forums/wins...ack-alpha.html
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March 17th, 2007, 06:33 PM
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Re: Vietnam Specific OOBs
I played couple of battles and I'm impressed how good you got Laurent's stuff (well at least part of it ) to work in WinMBT too. Not any bad errors (well, I'm not checked all oob's than USMC/US Army and VC yet). Hmm was M60 Patton really used in Vietnam? Or just "here and there" (small amounts)? I remember that M48 and Bulldog were most used tanks there...
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March 17th, 2007, 07:39 PM
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Re: Vietnam Specific OOBs
The tank history might have to be reworked a little. I haven't done much on it, and what I have done was more in the USMC OOB.
Note that the M60A1 was first introduced into the US Army in the early 1960s, but you are correct in that none were actually deployed to South East Asia. IIRC, they were all deployed to Europe to help counter the threat of Soviet Armor, while the armor threat in South East Asia required far less attention.
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March 18th, 2007, 07:25 AM
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Re: Vietnam Specific OOBs
Just add the early M-60 variants in the same unit class as the other earlier tanks (like the M-48) and give them an X3 radio code.
That will prevent them from being all over the place when the IA buys units, but they will be available for scenario design etc.
If you have already tinkered with the unit information tags (I haven't yet), you can add a little something saying that "the M-60s were mainly deployed to CONUS and Europe due the higher Soviet armoured threat, etc., but could have been shipped to SEA at short notice to counter an unexpected NVA armored push" or whatever. Not that it makes much sense now that I write it, but hey, it gives you a reason to keep it on board.
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March 18th, 2007, 12:58 PM
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Re: Vietnam Specific OOBs
I'll definitly note this issue for future releases. There are also enough MBT clones to actually create VN tank formations completely seperate.
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March 18th, 2007, 03:28 PM
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Re: Vietnam Specific OOBs
And how about role of M103A1 Heavy Tank (in USMC oob)? Any used in Vietnam? And which oobs/units have B-52? I didn't found any (or am I blind )?
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March 18th, 2007, 04:11 PM
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Re: Vietnam Specific OOBs
All USAF aircraft are contained in the new USAF OOB (formerly the UN OOB, #80). Use the allies tab to switch over to the UN OOB to purchase aircraft, C/SAR helos, special operations units (including Igloo White sensor drops), and Security Police.
The numbers of the other OOBs are contained in the Readme file. Only the MACV/SOG/CIA OOB has a new flag at present though (skull and bones).
Yeah, the tank stuff appears to warrant some clarification for sure. As an interesting FYI, while no M103 tanks were deployed, the USMC deployed M51 recovery vehicles to Vietnam, which were based on the M103 and designed specifically to recover that tank.
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March 19th, 2007, 02:43 AM
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Re: Vietnam Specific OOBs
Ok I must check UN oob bit carefully ... And what comes to M103, was it used in Vietnam anytime? Or just that recovery vehicle?
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April 9th, 2007, 02:54 PM
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Re: Vietnam Specific OOBs
Any update?
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April 22nd, 2007, 12:02 PM
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Re: Vietnam Specific OOBs
The link isn't working. Anyone have a copy?
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