Conceptual Balance Mod 5.4

[jeffr]

On the vine whip, making it area of effect seems to have broken it's vine ability.

Damn There goes one strategy out the window. AOE + entangle seemed like a powerful combo.

[Graeme Dice]

Turin said:
it does 9 armornegating nostrength added damage. So you will always deal 9 damage if you hit regardless of strength and armor.

9+2d6-2d6 actually, but it will average at 9 damage.

[silhouette]

jeffr said:

Damn There goes one strategy out the window. AOE + entangle seemed like a powerful combo.

Well... only if you are thinking about it only from the offensive point of view. I still remember the first time I put a vine shield on a tartarian and attacked a triton province. It's pretty close to the same thing

Sill

[shovah]

how about something that radiates heat with charcoal shield, vine shield and chi shoes/horned helm (to attack)

[Oversway]

On the vine whip, making it area of effect seems to have broken it's vine ability. Same with the star of heroes anti-armour ability. Next version should correct these by finding a different way to boost them.

Its been awhile, but the false fetters morning star got AoE in this mod? I don't think that worked, either.

All in all this is totally a great mod, and nearly everyone agrees since almost all mp games that I've seen posted use it.

[Cainehill]

Ouch! Is it really intentional that some "heroes" have a morale of _8_??? Broken Empire Ermor gets Zirru the Grand Thaumaturg who's fairly decent - but I find it hard to believe that any national hero is supposed to have morale 8. Unless maybe they're hobbits, or otherwise mentioned as being cowards.

[Turin]

no it doesn�t make much sense. He has a morale of 7 actually in the base game and I overlooked that incredibly low score when making the hero mod. Should be fixed to 13 or 14 if a new version gets made . Thanks for pointing it out.

[Cainehill]

Yeah, I checked it last night and even in the base game he comes with 7 or 8. Think it's a bug of sorts.

[Morkilus]

Any idea on when an "official 5.1" may be finished? Q.M.? Not badgering, just wondering if it's in the works.

[quantum_mechani]

The attachments on first two posts have been updated to the latest version. Readmes are still unfortunately 5.0 until Edi returns or someone takes up the project.

Highlights of 5.2:

*Boots of flying bug fixed

*Vine whip and star of heroes rebalanced, no longer AoE

*Hammer of the mountains now 100 damage unique artifact

*Minor nerfs to vine people (men and ogres slightly less prot, ogres and kings slightly less HP, kings cost slightly more)

*Treelords once again immobile

*Supplies and resources somewhat more common

*Amulet of vengeance, knife of the damned, star of thraldom, star of heroes, horn of valour, whip of command, and champions skull are all now trinkets

*Wraith sword is now 15 damage

*Wyverns are now 5 gems

*Demon Jester's AN weapon toned down to 1 damage