Thuggity Thug [efficient thug builds] - Page 6

lch · #51 May 30th, 2007, 09:32 PM

Yeah, or Shrouds of the battle Saint for their Scouts if you are doing a triple-bless *hint* *hint* and other stuff. Boom.

Shovah32 · #52 May 31st, 2007, 04:28 AM

Yes, skratti and sacred jotun leaders are very thuggable. The skratti have quickness and breath of winter(and werewolf form) and the sacred leaders are already good commanders and warriors without a bless.

Saxon · #53 May 31st, 2007, 10:49 AM

EA Ulm is particularly tasty at producing items on the cheap. Cheap mages with forge bonus + dwarven hammers. In my last game I got a construction magic site on top of that! While none of their units stand out as �thugable� they are well placed to summon and create well equipped thugs. On a large map, they could get the gem income and spend it cheaply to have multiple good thugs.

SlipperyJim · #54 May 31st, 2007, 01:17 PM

In Dom1, a Jotun Jarl made an excellent Thug. I haven't played the giants in Dom3 yet, but I don't think they've changed so much as to render the Jarls non-thuggable.

Lamia Queens aren't exactly Thugs, but a few of them with some decent equipment (especially Spell Focus & Ring of Sorcery) can be very good at slaughtering hordes of chaff with nasty evocations.

thejeff · #55 May 31st, 2007, 01:38 PM

Yeah, I'm just trying to figure out how to equip them on the cheap.

Water bless. Lots of Nature and Death gems. Only Const 4 so far.
Horror Helm is obvious. Vine Shield, probably. Not sure what's best for the other slots. There isn't a lot of good armor I can make.

Shovah32 · #56 May 31st, 2007, 01:45 PM

Lucky coin/pendant, horror helm, maybe ring of regen. Snake bladder stick is great for chaff killing.

lch · #57 June 1st, 2007, 10:26 AM

True on that Snake bladder thing. Here's a fun setup with almost pure nature gem usage for the Bandars:

Siddha with 4x Snake bladder stick, Starshine Skullcap, Hydra Skin armor, Birch Boots, Amulet of Resilience
Script to Personal luck, Resist Magic, Body Ethereal, Mistform, Astral Shield (maybe replace with Blessing in case you're using a bless), attack rearmost

Battle reports are fun to watch. His mapmove 10 and flying plus the ability to Cloud Trapeze AND Teleport make him an awesome raider. You could drop the Birch boots, if you want. Maybe replace the Birch boots and Amulet of Resilience with Boots of the Messenger and some other misc item, experiment a bit. Weaknesses: Undeads, mass archers.

Shovah32 · #58 June 1st, 2007, 12:47 PM

Replace birch boots with boots of quickness

lch · #59 June 1st, 2007, 05:54 PM

Doesn't need them in case of thejeff's water bless, unless what I heard from somewhere is true: that the Quickness from blessing stacks with the Quickness from spells/items. I don't believe it, would need to try it out. Quickness is cool, true.

Meglobob · #60 June 1st, 2007, 05:56 PM

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lch said:
Doesn't need them in case of thejeff's water bless, unless what I heard from somewhere is true: that the Quickness from blessing stacks with the Quickness from spells/items. I don't believe it, would need to try it out. Quickness is cool, true.

Oh its true, it stacks, you can have bless quickness, spell quickness and hall of fame quickness I believe. Triple quickness! Not got this yet personally.