MP Noobs vs. Vets III: Revolution, MA, CBM. Game Over. Noobs Triumph! - Page 57

atul · #**561** July 18th, 2009, 01:31 AM

And I was suggesting the placement swap purely by being afraid that team noob would put some Van killers to obvious sailing start. Never occurred to me Ermor had its achilles heel nations too.

Oh well, hindsight.

melnorjr · #**562** July 18th, 2009, 02:43 AM

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jotunheim and arco are actually the worst nations on your entire team for facing ermor. It is undebatable arco is the worst and jotunheim is at least not good even if it's not strictly the worst....

Really? There seem some obvious counters. too obvious maybe?

I think namad exaggerates a bit, but his general point is correct. Elephants are terrible against high-def, high-morale undead, and can't reliably trample ethereal units, and Ermor's typical research path takes him straight to some of the good elephant counters. Jotun's giants have poor attack and are vulnerable to swarming, and have no magic weapons. Neither nation has H3 priests or magic weapons of any sort.

I of course can't say how it would have turned out, but the matchup is nowhere near as difficult as the one up north.

I suppose I must admit that. I would have thought, however, that the death magic of jotun would have been of good use, and I had a few plans on how to fight ermor if I was near him that I'm not going to say anything about while I'm still in a game with you guys.

namad · #**563** July 18th, 2009, 03:44 AM

jotunheim has weak and expensive priests.

dust to dust isn't quite the same as banishment...

facts are just facts. no nation is absolutely worthless against another nation so being the worst at something isn't meant cruelly or insultingly.

Hoplosternum · #**564** July 18th, 2009, 04:26 AM

As Jotunheim I was more worried about Vanheim than Ermor with their high defence / high damage units - all of them - not just the sacreds. Giants don't care about the opponents Protection so much. Though I agree they would not be that good against Ermor either.

In hindsight Jotunheim were not a good choice for being one of the point nations. While Giants can expand fast enough against indies (especially indie 4s!) their strength is more in their recruitable anywhere Skrattis, blood magic etc. rather than their recruitable troops and they take some time to get going.

Lingchih · #**565** July 18th, 2009, 10:28 PM

OK, probably final time for this, but:

Get your Freaking turns in!

TwoBits · #**566** July 18th, 2009, 11:19 PM

Skinu (Caelum) left this on the Noob forum yesterday:

"if there is any way to get a 24 hour delay on the end of the deadline I can take my turn (I'm going to a friends who will let me borrow his net), if there isn't, I'm out of luck (and the game) untill Monday when they fix my internets."

Less than three hours to hosting.

rdonj · #**567** July 18th, 2009, 11:32 PM

Okay I've postponed the turn. I'd forgotten he said that and was pretty sure that he'd gotten a sub for the turn. Sorry lingchih, looks like you'll have to wait a little longer.

atul · #**568** July 19th, 2009, 03:09 AM

Wow, a truely lucky hit by whoever's casting those Fires from Afar (Abysia?). Killed only one unit and it was the leader causing a cascade failure elsewhere.

Lady Luck giveth, Lady Luck taketh.

Squirrelloid · #**569** July 19th, 2009, 03:22 AM

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Wow, a truely lucky hit by whoever's casting those Fires from Afar (Abysia?). Killed only one unit and it was the leader causing a cascade failure elsewhere.

Lady Luck giveth, Lady Luck taketh.

Province 10? That would have been me.

And its about time I had *some* luck in this game...

(Don't even talk to me abot getting attacked by independents... 5x, all in stupidly large numbers. I've seen independent attack events I didnt even know existed!)

Lingchih · #**570** July 19th, 2009, 04:21 AM

A scout raid? On my cap? At this point in the game?

Ermor spits in your face C'tis.