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February 11th, 2023, 12:47 PM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
BRADLEY status sort of for Ukraine.
Prepping for shipment for training purposes. Also, USA moving forward into Poland to support maintenace operations there for our units in country and further support of BRADLEY's before shipping them to the Ukraine once training is complete.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/defe...an_forces.html
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February 18th, 2023, 10:47 AM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...h-training-us/
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The Washington Times - Friday, February 17, 2023
The first group of Ukrainian soldiers completed training this week on the U.S.-supplied M2 Bradley Fighting Vehicle at the Army’s Grafenwoehr Training Area in Germany, U.S. military officials said Friday.
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More than 630 Ukrainian soldiers completed the five-week training program on how to operate the M2 Bradley in combat. The instructions also included basic soldier tasks such as marksmanship and medical training and a final battalion-level force-on-force exercise, Pentagon officials said Friday.
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More battalion-level combined arms training classes are already underway at the Grafenwoehr Training Area. Another Ukrainian battalion began training on the M2 Bradley before the first group graduated, military officials said.
American troops are also training Ukrainian artillery soldiers on the M109 Paladin howitzer. Next week, an infantry battalion will receive instructions on the M1126 Stryker, officials said.
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I'm thinking April/May is when we see the US gear (Bradley/Stryker/M109 Paladin) enter major combat -- right now we're training the trainers, who will in turn train more people themselves...
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February 18th, 2023, 12:02 PM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
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I'm thinking April/May is when we see the US gear (Bradley/Stryker/M109 Paladin) enter major combat -- right now we're training the trainers, who will in turn train more people themselves...
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Of course, we will all look back a year from now with hindsight that will be 20/20 and I still have another month and a half or so to nail down a better number that will no doubt, probably be wrong but FOR NOW I have the Stykers in 4/23 and the Bradleys 5/23 only because the learning curve is steeper for the Brads and FOR NOW the Abrams is 9/23 and that could all change tomorrow..... or this afternoon.... or not at all and if a true breakthrough is made and everything is needed to plug the hole then everything could change......again
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February 18th, 2023, 03:09 PM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
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February 19th, 2023, 05:26 AM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
"wait and see"....... that's all we can do ATM
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February 27th, 2023, 05:52 PM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
More waiting and seeing:
https://twitter.com/NOELreports/stat...rc=twsrc%5Etfw
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"The first battalion of the Armed Forces of Ukraine completed training on the operation of the M2A2 Bradley," said Oleksandr Pavlyuk, First Deputy Minister of Defense.
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https://twitter.com/DenesTorteli/sta...rc=twsrc%5Etfw
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Training of tankers from the 4th Tank Battalion on Leopard 2A4 tanks in Poland with Canadian instructors
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March 6th, 2023, 11:02 AM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
I found some much better views of the UKR BT-4 than I had found in the past and realized how wrong the ones I had in there were so they have all been redone ( wip )
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March 6th, 2023, 01:38 PM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
Don, while you're on the subject ... maybe look at the relative size of the LVT7/AAV vs the ACV icons.
LVT
Length 7.94 m
Width 3.27 m
Height 3.26 m
ACV
Length 8.90 m
Width 3.10 m
Height 2.80 m
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March 6th, 2023, 02:05 PM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
A hint about what you think is wrong would be nice.............
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March 7th, 2023, 05:47 PM
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Re: APC Development and related topics.
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A hint about what you think is wrong would be nice.............
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As said.
Their relative size looked a bit off.
Maybe just an illusion but the ACV icon looked much longer then the LVT/AAV one not 8.90 vs 7.94, i.e. 112% the length. Maybe the somewhat tapered bow on the LVT/AAV ...
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