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Old August 9th, 2007, 02:01 PM

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Default Hidden in Snow

So, I've been noticing the somewhat random results of Hidden in Snow, and am looking for ways to influence the results. I'm not certain whether its affected by cold, dominion, unburied corpses or none of the above.

At one cast, I got 1 unfrozen lord, 7 of the unfrozen warriors with the magic flint sword, and 3 with the unmagical spear. Not that much for fifty five gems.

At another cast, I recieved the 1 unfrozen lord, 4 flint sword warriors, and 23 with the spear. This really turned around the siege, since these are non-eating, strong undead with an actual mind. Oh, and I recieved one Unfrozen Mage as well.

I have the gems to cast it several more times, and will keep precise records, but I was wondering if anybody knew what makes this spell tick (and is willing to share it).
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Old August 9th, 2007, 02:08 PM

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I always thought it was totally random.

As far as I remember you always get a lord and 0-2 mages and up to 25 of the ordinary soldiers. My guess is that it is up to 10 of the better warriors.
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Old August 9th, 2007, 02:26 PM
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Default Re: Hidden in Snow

An earlier thread on the subject:
http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/thr...=&fpart=1&vc=1
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Gah, I tell you I've had such abysmal luck with that spell I'm done casting it. I've cast it 4 times (in 2 different games), 3 of them I didn't get a mage at all and once a not terribly useful one plus the troops themselves rather underwhelmed me. I've got better uses for 55 gems...
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Old August 9th, 2007, 06:04 PM
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I've never failed to get a mage with this spell, most of the time I get two and once I got three mages. Getting a E2W2D3 and E3W2D2 mage out of one casting is sweet.
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Old August 9th, 2007, 06:28 PM

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If a non-earth nation the chance of an E2 or even E3 mage is pretty nice, same with death. Extra bonus in that it combines them. Its a very depressing spell though, if you get your E2 (or E3/D3,etc) its nice but not amazing for 55 gems - if you don't, it just sucks. I've also gotten poor mages, or no mages at all which suck. I'm not sure if anyone casts it for the troops, I've always cast it for the mage(s). Been happy a time or two, satisfied and disappointed about even I think.
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I think I'd much rather spend the gems on anything else

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I happen to like the unique troops, not that there aren't more efficient troop summons. But the situation where it's an excellent deal is when you don't have the available paths and magic combos you can get with it. I've had good luck with it but I don't know if it had anything to do with where or how I did it - I think it's probably just a matter of luck, perspective, and attitude.
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Got a handful of crap troops and no mages the time I tried it.
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I have always had best luck at late summer and worse luck during late winter..
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