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October 17th, 2005, 08:14 AM
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Re: OT: Stop IE
Tell me about it....
I started Designing Websites when I was 13, I'm 19 now and now that I use firefox I've found that the w3c standards are a great thing.
However, unlearning 6 years of bad habits and coding is a hell of a lot more difficult than I thought!
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October 17th, 2005, 10:49 AM
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Re: OT: Stop IE
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I have never experienced these problems, never once lost any bookmarks.
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Same here. I'm using Firefox 1.0.7.
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October 17th, 2005, 11:56 AM
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Re: OT: Stop IE
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Thermodyne said:
Here is the part that impacts the web. The key words that allows the rule to be applied to every website "or used by federal agencies", have been much abused. I have seen a case where a private site was linked to by a federal worker in an email to a client. The client took exception and filed a complaint. The site owner was found lible.
Section 508 of the Rehabilitation Act requires that all "electronic and information technology" (EIT) developed, procured, maintained, or used by federal agencies must be equally accessible to persons with disabilities as it is to those who are not disabled. The statute and the implementing standards help to create an accessible workplace for federal employees with disabilities. When EIT conforms with the requirements of section 508, people who are blind or visually impaired are able to access and use government information and services as independently and effectively as those who are sighted. Through the use of technology, filling out an electronic form, keeping a copy of the form, or accessing information describing a federal program is as accessible for persons with disabilities as it is for those without disabilities. People who are blind or visually impaired can locate, identify and operate the controls, and functions of any information technology used to provide government information, whether it is on the web, or in a kiosk.
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Although I couldn't find anything about the specific lawsuit that you mention, from what I can find, section 508 only applies to third-party websites that are under direct contract to the government.
http://www.access-board.gov/sec508/FAQ.htm
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4) Does Section 508 apply to the private sector?
No, it does not regulate the private sector and does not apply to recipients of Federal funds.
16) Does this requirement also apply to commercial or private sector Web sites?
No. Section 508 does not apply to a private sector Web site unless such site is provided under contract to a covered entity. For example, a Federal agency might contract with a consulting firm to collect and analyze some demographic data and make that information available to the public on a Web site. In that case, the Web site or portion devoted to fulfilling the contractual obligation would be subject to Section 508. The firm's general Web site, or the portion not devoted to the contracted study, would not be subject to Section 508.
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E=mc^2
E=1kg(3x10^8m/s)^2=9x10^16J
which, if I'm not mistaken, is equivilent to roughly a 50 megaton nuclear bomb.
Fear the squirrel.
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October 17th, 2005, 12:17 PM
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Re: OT: Stop IE
However, having a website that works for disabled people is a good thing.
How do you make sure the webpage is compatable?
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October 17th, 2005, 12:18 PM
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Re: OT: Stop IE
Poke your eyes out and see if the site still works
Or, do it the boring way, and just make sure that it works with braille reading devices.
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October 17th, 2005, 12:56 PM
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Re: OT: Stop IE
All images must hawe alt tags containing a viable description/name of the image. All links wust have title tags describing the purpose of the link. Avoiding images that are links might help, but way be redundant with title tags. Of course, image links are bad for search engine indexing, so are best avoided anyways. That is probably it. Oh, and don't use the demon-spawn imagemap!
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October 17th, 2005, 01:04 PM
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Re: OT: Stop IE
So what do you do about those security* images? You know the 'Enter the letters/numbers' in the image below' dialogue boxes. You just can't use them I suppose.
* I was told they were to stop general spaming/bot abuse. And to kill price comparison software working properly of course. Seems plausible.
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October 17th, 2005, 02:23 PM
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Re: OT: Stop IE
Text to voice readers are clearly spam bots.
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October 17th, 2005, 04:07 PM
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Re: OT: Stop IE
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Imperator Fyron said:
All images must hawe alt tags containing a viable description/name of the image. All links wust have title tags describing the purpose of the link. Avoiding images that are links might help, but way be redundant with title tags. Of course, image links are bad for search engine indexing, so are best avoided anyways. That is probably it. Oh, and don't use the demon-spawn imagemap!
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I know very little html.
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If I only could remember half the things I'd forgot, that would be a lot of stuff, I think - I don't know; I forgot!
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October 17th, 2005, 04:09 PM
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Re: OT: Stop IE
Try supporting them, and the users. Then add some hearing challenged people so that you can support them over a TTY.
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