Malfador Games Pirated

[deccan]

Originally posted by DavidG:

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Originally posted by Puke:

Not really much to be done about it.

Do you really think so? Or is it just no one has the will to do it.

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Malaysia used to have a big problem with pirated Versions of movies on VCD. You could walk down any street in Kuala Lumpur and see stalls selling them on the roadside.

This year, I find that it is no longer possible to find pirated VCDs on the street. Why? Because the government decided to get tough on them. Not to placate Western governments and companies, but because the VCD pirates were getting too powerful and arrogant, threatening the families of police officers, burning their private cars, breaking into police compound to retrieve confiscated CDs and copying equipment. So, yes, I believe that it is a "will" problem.

On the other hand, I find that pirated DVDs and software are still commonplace.

[Azselendor]

Take a look at the film industry. People pirate from the preview screenings, post it Online, and the film gets trashed whether its good or not. The Film industry admits this is costing them money and they are actually considering cutting out test screenings and early screenings along with limiting trailers, film scripts, and even release dates.

How long until this filters into the software and gaming industries?

We got the recording industry lawsuit happy already. lol

The fact is, piracy promotes one thing and that is the isolation of developers from customers. Developers withdraw and hide and keep more and more secrets, fearful of releasing any information.

btw, Once again Fyron, you missed my analogy.

[Fyron]

Sure I did. I was just pointing out that the analogy is flawed because diseases do not have the means to actively develop new ways to defeat protections.

[Jake Monroe]

HiRider II: http://www.shrapnelgames.com/cgi-bin...3;t=010717;p=3 note, read from bottom to top.
HiRider II: Even games sold only on the internet get pirated where you live.
NekoTonya: Jealous?? : p
NekoTonya: The Boards put newer Posts at the top
HiRider II: yes
HiRider II: older post at the bottom
HiRider II: it forces you to not scroll down to view new Posts
NekoTonya: Me brb
HiRider II: So, if you were to want to tell them why everything is pirated where you live, what would you say?
NekoTonya: Back
NekoTonya: What would I say?
NekoTonya: Well alot of games sold in the US/UK arent sold where I live.
NekoTonya: In order to satisfy Malaysian gamers
NekoTonya: Pirating is the only way.
NekoTonya: Plus, import taxes
NekoTonya: I'm not quite sure we'd want to fork out 200++ for a single original game.
HiRider II: See, most people in the USA and Canada can't understand what it's like living somewhere with a bad economy and low value money.
NekoTonya: I don't blame them. The education system does not focus to foreign countries.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Sure I did. I was just pointing out that the analogy is flawed because diseases do not have the means to actively develop new ways to defeat protections.

not actively, but they can reactively.

[Puke]

Very solid point there. Our education system certainly does not focus on forign affairs or world politics. Even having sucessfully completed it, I am not entirely sure WHAT our education system focuses on.

I AM entirely sure that most people I meet are insufficiently educated, forigners included in this sweeping generalization. Most non-US residents seem to have a better handle on world events, though they seem to eat up just as much propoganda about the driving factors behind those events as do US residents.

Im not sure what that has to do with anything, but those guys have a legitimate point. Its not the evil people pirating games, is a world economy working against them. Its not like there are a whole lot of sales being lost to those pirated games. On the other hand.

This could be an arguement for taking down barriers to free trade, and bringing affordable goods to more areas of the world. That would end up in increased revenues in the end... But of course anti-globalists are the new humanitatians, and they will tell you that taking down barriers to free trade is just an excuse to abuse forign workforces and further weaken the economies of smaller nations.

believe what you like, but its sort of a religious debat at this point. not much to be gained for arguing either side.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

But of course anti-globalists are the new humanitatians, and they will tell you that taking down barriers to free trade is just an excuse to abuse forign workforces and further weaken the economies of smaller nations.

what we need is free trade and global standars, but not globalized standards, for workforces, if you get the difference. the idea of a world government scares me. why? because it would eliminate competition in the government area...and we all know how well a monopoly works.

[DavidG]

That's an interesting point raised by Jake Monroe re games only available in pirated Version.
I have to say that if I could I would happily pirate F1 2003 for the PS2 and I would not feel the slightest bit guilty about it. Why? Because Sony has chosen not to release the game in NA and not only that have secured a licensing agreement with F1 that ensures no one else can make an F1 PS2 game.

[Fyron]

Actually... PS2 games (as well as X-Box and Gamecube) can be and are actively pirated every day over the internet and with cd/dvd burners... going with an easily copied medium for console games (as compared to game cartridges) is the downfall of what used to be hard to pirate games. Using these pirated copies requires altering your console system a bit with a "mod chip," but that is not too hard.

[tesco samoa]

HiRider II: See, most people in the USA and Canada can't understand what it's like living somewhere with a bad economy and low value money.
NekoTonya: I don't blame them. The education system does not focus to foreign countries.


But it is also ironic that this generalization is in itself a generalization. I do hope that your education system does not paint everyone from north america as well off with a good economy. That is just not true.

The way I see it is that if your living in a good economy or bad economy and you have a computer , internet and you have the personal time to commit to playing large time involvement games as SEIV then you should have the money to purchase the said game.
The question of availability and ease of purchase should dictate where you purchase the said game from.