OT: Galactic sterilisation

[Puke]

Originally posted by JurijD:
Puke... you're someone that want to appologize the actions of your stupid leaders by saying:

" hey! we're not so bad if the Europeans did it a few centuries back."

no, you are still not paying attention. i'm not appologizing for anything. im admitting that we're on top, and behaving badly. theres no excuses here.

im telling you that you are downright stupid (i said silly before, but you keep dragging it out) for glorifying yourself, vilifying those whom you think are your enemy, and ignoring historical realities in favor of your own rose-colored worldview.

people are animals. wake the hell up, and stop crying about it to me.

you want to argue politics, do it with someone else. if you haven't noticed, im not disagreeing with anything besides your propoganda about one group of people (which has never been one unified group) being a peace loving, brotherly, pillar of civility.

So go ahead, continue your political discussion as if I hadnt interupted. Just dont complain when I poke my head in and make fun of you, when you are ignoring everything we know about history from written accounts, verbal traditions, and archeological evidence. Dont worry, I'll make fun of the Americans, too.

definitly an arugement FOR galactic sterilization. crimeny, i hope it happens sooner than later. preferably after a good night on the town, and before the hangover.

edit:

Or the murderer:"Don't blame me for killing them, It's in my NATURE, its in my blood... I couln't help it"

okay, maybe i was saying that. but i stand by it. people are killers, its what we do. im not telling you our way is the right way, or that we are so great, or that people love us, or that we're helping anyone, or even that most people in our country like what we are doing. thats why i try not to get into these things. Our empire will probably be over in a few hundred years. I doubt we have anywhere to go but down. Thats the way history is. There will be someone else after us, and someone else after them.

You cant just choose not to participate, and have your peaceful society on the sidelines - those are the people whom are crushed and exploited by whomever is in power at the time. The Incas would have been happy to have not participated, so would have the Japanese in the 1500s. So would have China. So would have the tribsemen in the Congo, and the Inuit, and the Maori. But 'opting-out' isnt a valid option, its eat or be eaten. Thanks to modern society, we have stopped evolving biologically - but cultural evolution continues. Yeah, lots of people would like to live in peace - but unless there really is a divine hand in the universe, they're not going to get to.

[ January 07, 2004, 18:08: Message edited by: Puke ]

[Puke]

Originally posted by dogscoff:
One thing about this whole black hole sterilisation theory is that it assumes that alien life-forms are as (un)resistant to radiation as humans. There could be life forms out there that would are highly resistant to this stuff and would therefore survive.

oh yeah, lets see how clever you think that is, when the space ship of Giant Mutant Radioactive Cockroaches actually LANDS. good thing we had 50s 'B' movies to prepair us for the day...

[JurijD]

Puke... we seem to be talking about two different things. Thats why we don't see eye to eye, Fyron you have no clue what we're talking about but that was to be expected.

1. Ok you admit that you people are wrong for what you're doing. We agree on this.

2. You're saying we're the same as you are because people are pigs. NO I dissagree! We did make mistakes in tha past but the political stand Germany&France took on the Iraq issue is the right one and that is that.

3. Everything else that was said is irrelevant.


Astrocities... banta poo.. I like it hehe. But you're forgetting that the black hole in the center of the galaxy has already formed and won't produce a Gamma ray explosion. Phew.

Oleg... noone said this was a proven theory and it was all 100% true. What I gave here was a theory that was proposed by several scientists that are obserbving these gamma reay bursts. And since you obviously ignored my claculation that clearly showed that is is possible for an Gamma ray explosion of 10^27th power of an Hbomb to kill us 100 yight years away I won't waste another word.

About life forms that are resistant to radiation... yes that is a valid point we don't know how radiation will affect other life forms but yopu gotta admit that if you're something like 10 light years from this excplosion and you get 100x the dosage you get at an H-bomb rexplosion... well that can't be good for anything. I think its only a function of the distance.

[Puke]

Originally posted by JurijD:
1. Ok you admit that you people are wrong for what you're doing. We agree on this.

no, i dont. i didnt say anything of the sort. stop trying to get me into this. i just said we aren't RIGHT. because there is no right and wrong, its all subjective. you dont like it, so its making you mad. fine, be mad at someone else, i dont care about politics. or be mad at ME because im a nasty person, just stop trying to put words in my mouth.

2. You're saying we're the same as you are because people are pigs. NO I dissagree! We did make mistakes in tha past but the political stand Germany&France took on the Iraq issue is the right one and that is that.

ooooOOOOooooh, im so glad you're "right." Is god on your side too? god was also on the cananites side, the egyptians, the mohamadians, the jews, the eastern orthodox, and danm near everyone else whom was "right." Congratulations on being "right."

About life forms that are resistant to radiation... yes that is a valid point we don't know how radiation will affect other life forms but yopu gotta admit that if you're something like 10 light years from this excplosion and you get 100x the dosage you get at an H-bomb rexplosion... well that can't be good for anything. I think its only a function of the distance.

You know, the scariest thing is that if most of the world is wiped out, we probably have the technology to breed the human race back to health, even with very little stock. The problem is that the people whom survive would be those who spend their time in bunkers like NORAD, so the future generations of the human race would be made up entirely from CAREER GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES. Career MILITARY employees, if being government wasnt bad enough.

unfortuneatly, the military tends to be a vicious cycle of stupididy, much like the vicious circle of poverty, but slightly different. higher ranks are often full of dipsticks, so the smart people dont re-enlist. so only morons advance, thus perpetuating the cycle.

So there we have it. the future of SE4 style galactic combat will be fought out by inbred military morons, vs giant radioactive cockroaches. glorious.

[Paul1980au]

New tech trees for inbred cockroach races that are military reps.

[TerranC]

Originally posted by Atrocities:
Isn't the center of our galaxy some super mega black hole? I seem to recall a show on the Discovery channel that talked about this. They figure that in about a billion years we are bantha poodo.

Aye, but for some damn reason, The milky way, just like the rest of the universe is apparently dispersing rather than being sucked into the hugh black hole at the core of our galaxy.

Pretty "soon", the Magellenic clouds and the milky way galaxies will collide, creating one huge galaxy that will still keep dispersing.

[ January 07, 2004, 23:50: Message edited by: TerranC ]

[Fyron]

Fyron you have no clue what we're talking about but that was to be expected.

That is an extremely ignorant and naive statement. Too bad that long post I had written disappeared. Oh well. Return to your fantasy world.

Originally posted by Puke:

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Originally posted by JurijD:
1. Ok you admit that you people are wrong for what you're doing. We agree on this.

no, i dont. i didnt say anything of the sort. stop trying to get me into this. i just said we aren't RIGHT. because there is no right and wrong, its all subjective. you dont like it, so its making you mad. fine, be mad at someone else, i dont care about politics. or be mad at ME because im a nasty person, just stop trying to put words in my mouth.

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This is exactly what I was talking about JurijD. You are stereotyping people here and reading what you want to read, not necessarily what was posted.

[ January 08, 2004, 00:09: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

[President_Elect_Shang]

Originally posted by Puke:
unfortuneatly, the military tends to be a vicious cycle of stupididy, much like the vicious circle of poverty, but slightly different. higher ranks are often full of dipsticks, so the smart people dont re-enlist. so only morons advance, thus perpetuating the cycle.

Could you explain this one again?

[Atrocities]

Isn't the center of our galaxy some super mega black hole? I seem to recall a show on the Discovery channel that talked about this. They figure that in about a billion years we are bantha poodo.

[Puke]

alright, i was partially joking, and partially basing the statement on what all my friends from the armed forces tell me, so dont take it personally. So forgive me for repeating, I will take your request as an honest search for explaination due to my poor verbalization, rather than incredulity.

1 - military enlistees enter the armed forces for a tour of duty.

2 - short 5-year tour of duty ends, smart enlistees decide that its a bunch of bull**** and decide to go make something else of their life

3 - not-so-smart enlistees re-enlist, and go on to become officers

4 - future smart generations of enlistees see that only morons have made it through to the top ranks, and leave after their first tour, again leaving only the morons to reinslist

5 - cycle repeats ad-nauseam (much like the vicious circle of poverty, where poverty leads to fewer opportunities which leads to more poverty - a well known academic sociological concept)

6 - radiation from a black hole wipes out all the human population, save those senior military people (distilled from generations of moron re-enlistees) whom are in deep bunkers, such as NORAD

7 - with limited gene stock and advanced technology, we repopulate the world with inbred incompetants

8 - elsewhere in the universe, giant mutant radioactive cockroaches are immune to sterilization from blackhole radiation, and somehow achieve spaceflight.

9 - your race options for SE4 suddenly look alot less apealing.