OT: Which is better: XP or 2000? > Another Piracy Discussion - Page 5

JayBdey · #41 November 28th, 2003, 07:55 AM

No, if someone burns a copy or downloads from say, kazaa, they did not steal anything.

They did however commit a crime. But that crime was not theft.

Stealing would be if I broke into a store and stole a SEIV disk since the store no longer has the physical disk and can't use it.

I'm not defending piracy, but I'm just making sure you know that it isn't "stealing". Yes, it is wrong, but it is not theft.

Edit: Most of my games have been purchused legaly because of the CD-Key.

[ November 28, 2003, 05:58: Message edited by: JayBdey ]

Roanon · #42 November 28th, 2003, 07:57 AM

No legal software AND running WinXP? Be careful, very careful. You can do it, but you have to know how to antispy it.

Fyron · #43 November 28th, 2003, 07:59 AM

Yes... it is stealing by any sense of the word. Taking someone's idea for a new movie and marketing it as your own is stealing. Pirating software is stealing. It is not the exact same sort of stealing as stealing bread, but it is still theft nonetheless.

JayBdey · #44 November 28th, 2003, 08:02 AM

Why would I need to be careful?

OK, worse case scenario. Big bad MS relay is spying on me. They report that to the software companies.

How would they use that evidence in court? Spying on citizens is not exactly legal for a company to do. Hell, even the government has to go through procedures.

Imagine the bad publicity MS would get from that.

And it's not stealing. Says the courts, it's copyright infringement. If I went to court the charges would be copyright infringement.

[ November 28, 2003, 06:03: Message edited by: JayBdey ]

SpaceBadger · #45 November 28th, 2003, 08:04 AM

Your definitions of theft and stealing are not accurate either legally or etymologically. To quote a certain Spaniard: "I do not think that that word means what you think it means." You are free to make up your own definitions for words, but don't expect them to have any meaning to anyone but yourself.

SpaceBadger

Fyron · #46 November 28th, 2003, 08:05 AM

Copyright infringement IS stealing...

JayBdey · #47 November 28th, 2003, 08:05 AM

It's not my definition, it's the US's legal system's definition.

Fyron · #48 November 28th, 2003, 08:08 AM

Regardless of what technical term is used for the crime commited, software piracy is still theft. Wrongfully taking another's intellectual property is stealing it. Copyright infringement is stealing whatever the item is.

JayBdey · #49 November 28th, 2003, 08:09 AM

I guess so. In the same way murder is stealing. I mean, you are taking something from them, their life.

But we don't call it stealing so it isn't.

Fyron · #50 November 28th, 2003, 08:12 AM

No, murder is not stealing in any sense of the word. You do not gain the person's life when you kill him/her.