plz combine europe universalis: Rome and dom 3

[Aezeal]

I've just started playing Rome and I like the game... the realism behind it. It takes years and years to get anywhere (colonize). Wars are fought mostly short and then peaced without actually gaining land, just money as tribute etc etc I can really imagine that thats how things where 2500 years ago. Research is slow, building buildings etc a REAL investment (years of saving). You also see generations of the ruling families pass by over the years each with their own strengths and weaknesses.

There is moral in armies and population etc, battles are also not directly controle like in DOM

I'd love to see this game combined with dominions (there seem to be mod options for rome but I've got no idea what you could do)

Rome with
- great fantasy nations
- a bit faster expansion
- magic weapons and magic
- pretender gods
- more type of units
would be so nice

Or vice versa
Dominions with
- a bit more realistic province management
- a bit more realistic war options (I know dom seems good already but what they are doing in rome seems very realistic)
(hmm what more to add, dom almost has it all..)

So can anyone of you programming guys do this for me

/ me wakes up

[Sombre]

Yeah I'll get right on that.

[lch]

Sombre said:
Yeah I'll get right on that.

Note for the uninitiated: Sombre uses to joke from time to time.

[Endoperez]

It would be nice, of course, but who here could do that? Europa Universalis series isn't Dominions, and Dominions isn't EU; some mods can help there, but those would happen in the Universalis end and people here aren't the best people to ask for that.
Total conversion mods would be very hard or perhaps even impossible to do. Even if it was technically possible, there's copyright to consider. If Shrapnel Games let anyone "borrow" the likeness of Dominions races, depending on copyright laws they might have to let everyone, including other publishers, do that.

It's easy to simplify a plot into few sentences, but to write the book or produce a movie - that's much harder.

[Evil Dave]

Oh, it's not a hard problem. All it would take is access to the source code for both games and the folks who wrote them, a while to study the problem, and months to years of effort to merge all the pieces in a sensible way.

I'd do it myself, but I'm a little busy right now.

[Agrajag]

The easiest way to fulfill your wish is to mod Rome, since it already has the engine required to handle all the gameplay mechanics that you want*. Of course, it would still take months.
*-At least since you said there is research in Rome. I don't remember any ability to research, but I've barely played the game, so I might be wrong.

[Saxon]

I think on this one, it is going to be a matter of opinion. The EU series is great. Not perfect, but great. Reminds me of another game that has some problems but is great none the less. Starts with a �D��

[Sombre]

I enjoyed EU 2. It didn't have the most thrilling gameplay but it let you do things that no other games do.

[Aezeal]

I haven't played those older EU games, I read some reviews and heard you could conquer part of the world with most nations. In Rome you are somewhat limited (maybe a bit too much) to what could realisticly happen. a small nation (which starts with one province) won't grom much larger than a few provinces in a 100 years (and that is a few hours of playing)

yesterday I started playing a barbarian tribe.. lol.. basicly I could do nothing.. not enough civilization to colonize surrounding lands, not really able to gather enough military to conquer anything (it was a tribe in portugal, only neighbour: cartaghe (?) which started with about 20 provinces and high civilization compared to my 2.

Zeldor: rome seems historically accurate. you can start on any DAY you want to in the period between pyrric war and the first emperor and some reveiw checked a few things and those seemed to fit. but I admit the game is a bit slow which is why combining it would be nice..

but it is kewl that for example my general send otu to conquer far away lands (another weak country) suddenly decided to keep those far away lands for himself (I hadn't payed attention to his loyalty in a while.. then I noticed he wouldn't split his troops anymore (make a 2nd army) and later I got a message that he had started a rebellion...

hey sombre.. let me know when you are ready

[Zeldor]

Aezeal:

Yeah, EU series is fun unless you are a Dominions player or someone that wants to spend more time on it. Dom3 of cousr is far from being balanced but in EU what do you have? In EU:Rome there are probably 2-3 playable nations. Remaining ones are pretty much useless. You need 1-2 hours on fastest game speed to be able to colonise one province.
EU3 has also only few playable nations. And there are some nations that have hidden 'lucky' tag. And France and England are always there. People would of course say that nations were not equal in history but EU is not historically accurate.
EU series pretends to be historical, but only people with quite limited knowledge can be fooled by that. Province names are fine as it concerns western europe. Where you need to spend at least 5 minutes to verify and look at historical atlas they tend to be really strange. Also you get science penalties for belonging to non-western tech group. And you also get weaker units if you are not that group. So it takes you more time to research weaker troops. And it is quite common knowledge that in eastern europe cavalry was really better than in west. And here west has everything better and faster.
And you can go on and on with interface, diplomatic system, peace signing mechanics etc etc. Dominions is far from perfect but still 3x better than EU series.

So the thing that you want is dominions with historical races, technological research, more resources and more buildings. So you'd need to replace magic sites with constructable things and magic gems with wood, iron etc. But doing normal research that would increase efficiency, upgrade weapons for units etc etc would be impossible with that engine.