Which nations most represent chaos or evil?

[Kristoffer O]

Nah, it's mostly Hinnom that is decidedly unfriendly. They are cannibalistic and quite depraved, but their successors of Ashdod no longer eat population and has become quite civilized. A bit morbid perhaps, but not really evil. They might still be viewed as evil by humans I suppose.

Gath is quite nice, but a bit tyrannical vs the human majority of the nation. The hard core giants are probably considered evil by the humans, but the humans and some giants are quite benevolent.

[Professor_Dyar]

Heh, well, as I said, it is a defensible position that humans as a rule are evil - it's an equally defensible position that they are not.

Still, the fact remains that the vast majority of the nations in Dominions have some attributes that our modern society would regard as good and others that our society would regard as evil, and which are emphasized in the game is largely dependent upon who their pretender is. This is arguably true even of early and mid R'lyeh - the Elder Things in At the Mountains of Madness are no more and no less evil than human beings, and late R'lyeh is only evil because of its world-destroying dreamland dominion. There are also a handful of obvious good-evil dichotomies set within the same mythological backdrop, e.g. Tir'na n'Og versus Fomoria, Vanheim versus Helheim, Vanheim versus Niefelheim, Kailasa versus Lanka, etc. Apart from the bad sides of these pairings, the only other undeniably evil nations I can identify are late Ermor and late R'lyeh. Everybody else depends on your god.

[AdmiralZhao]

As someone who has a played many games as Mictlan, I really don't think they are as bad a people make out. Everyone always points to the blood sacrifices, but they never mention that Mictlan doesn't tax their blood provinces. And unlike the other nations, which conscript vast numbers of their citizens into the military, Mictlan relies on a small, elite, all-volunteer army of jaguar warriors. And even the few slaves they do conscript are used for garrison duty and filling out the defense of castles. They rarely have to face combat. Really, it is more like jury duty. Also, Mictlan has a strong commitment to abstinence-only sex education, which is more than you can say for the various Pangea's.

[moderation]

Hmm. You could argue that Mictlan's low taxation and small militaries are an example of "small government". Also, the environment is probably doing much better in Mictlan lands since they keep their population under control.

[Chacal]

LA Ermor evil ?

What's evil in giving everybody eternal life ? Humanity wish since humans knows about mortality...

[lch]

I think that oranges are pretty evil, but apples are good.

[kasnavada]

I think that people in this thread don't make the distinction between "Christian evil" and Evil in the broad sense of the term. All nations judged evil in this are the one that are evil in a "Christian" view of the world.

Evil in all religions is always the same : being evil means breaking rules that this particular religion made. Most of the rules religions, thankfully, work quite well to let people live their life in peace without fear of being harmed and shun upon the aspect that may endanger the human species as a whole. Consanguinity, homosexuality, murder, theft are examples of things that don't contribute to reproducing the species, and most religion consider them bad as a result (that's my opinion). At least, "successful" religions do that.

Within Dominions, religion is what you God says in the game. Therefore, as was probably was said before, Evil is what people that don't believe in your god do, Good people is what people that believe in you do.

Edit for clarity (bis).

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lch said:
I think that oranges are pretty evil, but apples are good.

I think that four legs are good, but two legs are baaad.

[hunt11]

why does everybody think that LA Ermor is bad yet EA Ermor, the people who unleashed death itself are some how much better

[Endoperez]

hunt11 said:
why does everybody think that LA Ermor is bad yet EA Ermor, the people who unleashed death itself are some how much better

EA Ermor didn't unleash anything. The Cataclysm happened after their time, before Middle. I think the Cataclysm has something to do with a Prince of Death and calling forth too many Tartarians.