Abandon SE4?Opinions:Space Empires 5 screen shots?

[Combat Wombat]

I predict many more years of life left in se4 even after se5 is released.

[Artaud]

Black_Knyght said:
Personally. I have no intention of just quitting SE-IV and diving headlong into SE-V.

I actually enjoy SE-IV. It's a great game, and the freedom to modify nearly every aspect of it is what caight, and kept, my attention.

For me, it's actually disappointing that so many people will simply just drop it because something new comes along. New may be different, but it's not always better.

I agree with you. I intend to go on playing SE4. I will buy SE5, but whether or not I'll like it will be determined by the gameplay. Higher end graphics don't impress me. I want to know if it's a more enjoyable game.

There are some games where I just prefer the older version. I like Railroad Tycoon II so much I never even considered getting Railroad Tycoon III. After reading comments about how RRT3 differs from RRT2, I will probably never buy the newer version.

I love Doom 2, but find Doom 3 unplayable.

I prefer OOTP Baseball 5 over OOTP Baseball 6.

And anyway, do we know for sure when SE5 will be released?

[Raapys]

There's many game series where the older games are better than the new ones, but I thought the whole idea with SEV was that we'd get basically SEIV with more features and options, not something *new*. I'm with the "don't care about graphics" crowd, but I was sure SEV would be a big improvement on the gameplay and modding front as well, yet there seems to be a notable lack of enthusiasm about it, I'd say.

[Phoenix-D]

Mainly because we don't know what's changed. The ship design system is new, the research is SEIII style..other than that, who knows.

We do know the moddng has been opened up somewhat, which will cause much joy a couple months after release.

[Renegade 13]

No one can be overly enthusiastic, since no one other than the beta testers knows what's coming! And we can't tell, for fear of breaching the NDA all beta testers had to sign.

[Artaud]

Quite true.

One thing most of us will agree on is that SE5 has some very large shoes to fill. IMHO the idea that SE5 will be so great it will make us set aside SE4 is almost too much to hope for.

We shall see.

I have seen some of the screen shots. They look quite nice.

[PvK]

I'll get SE5 and be interested to see how it turns out. I'll be continuing to play SE4 though, especially my Proportions Mod PBW games.

Some considerations:
* The SE5 graphics aren't a feature I care much about.
* I wasn't entirely happy with SE4 until the Gold version came out.
* I wasn't really happy with the way Starfury ended up.

[Black_Knyght]

One thing that bugs me is the shift in graphics format. I already liked the way SE4 works, and the ability to add new graphics to it at will was a HUGE factor in my enjoying it.

From everything I've seen the shift in graphics is more show than go. Add to that the new issue of a more complicated image system and the increased difficulty in making new shipsets for it, and I doubt I'll even bother with it. Improvements could've been made to SE4 without changing it's entire format.

[Fyron]

That's only an issue if you do not make shipsets with 3d models. Most SE4 shipset authors use 3d modeling programs anyways, so it's not that big of a deal. Atrocities might have Doga troubles, but he will adapt.

[Black_Knyght]

Imperator Fyron said:
That's only an issue if you do not make shipsets with 3d models. Most SE4 shipset authors use 3d modeling programs anyways, so it's not that big of a deal. Atrocities might have Doga troubles, but he will adapt.

While ATis certainly the best, he isn't the only DoGA user around. I've noticed that there are a lot of other sets with DoGA. I evenhave a few sets I've made and won't be able to translate over.

But above and beyond that, I'm simply not interested in "adapting" just because a newer version of the game comes out.

There are a number of games out already that have 3D models & graphics far superior to anything I've seen so far with SE5. If that was all I cared about, I wouldn't have bothered with SE4. It was the ability to readily "make it mine", mod or add to it, that I liked. You could play the game and add to it what you wanted, and you didn't need to be a computer or graphics whiz to do it.