MP Celebrities MA game ended: Numahr - Ermor wins! - Page 3

Valerius · #21 July 9th, 2011, 09:23 PM

Doh! I was just about to post to say I'm really enjoying this game (and the fast pace).

But I guess I'll be more productive this week with less Dominions to play. Enjoy your vacation!

earcaraxe · #22 July 17th, 2011, 02:18 PM

im back, let the dreams of bloodshed realize!

Numahr · #23 July 18th, 2011, 04:32 AM

I am on a trip today and I may miss the deadline, please grant a small +12 hours extension, it will be enough.

earcaraxe · #24 July 18th, 2011, 04:34 AM

gladly granted.

earcaraxe · #25 July 20th, 2011, 06:58 AM

since i am basicly out of the game and will soon go to vacation again, i have turned myself AI and passed the password to valerius. have a nice game.

earcaraxe · #26 July 20th, 2011, 07:23 AM

i am curious of what bandar's player thought.

He tried to rush me from turn 5. I thought it was a suicide attempt, I played ma abysia, not exactly prone to rushes (even with sloth 3), since it has a strong early game with powerful fire mages. And i think bandar's bless strategy isnt that unresistable anyway. (besides that ma aby is my most-played with nation and i have a couple MP victories with them already)

So instead of expanding and castling up and researching, we got into a war. I built my pretender for a long-term strategy, choosing sloth 3, but I managed to beat his first invasion and conquer all my lands back. At that time i hoped he will also think that he has nearly no chance of beating me quickly, and we can revert to peace, so i didnt attacked his provinces, as a gesture: i tried to signal him i want peace. It didnt happen, as he invaded again, and i had to comit my resources to fighting him off, which i managed again. As a result bandar lagged behind in expansion and in most of the graphs (except research), me being second-to-last. This perceived (and also very real) weakness got huge cross-hairs on our backs, and we both got attacked from behind by others and stood no chance against much more prepared, much bigger armies.

deadnature i will thank u if u share ur aspect of this. and why did u attack abysia of all ur neighbors? did u think it was the easiest prey (this might be true still)? it seemed to me that ur huge tiger-cavalry had the plan to go in one direction and quickly conquer the first neighbor they meet.

thanks for the game anyway, it was very intense, quite enjoyable, and the first time i was actually beaten in an MP game (and did not give up from a strong position).

may the gods of war bless ur weapons!

Deadnature · #27 July 22nd, 2011, 12:03 AM

You're quite right that tussling with you was a big mistake, however, I think you mis-interpret my strategy:

I realized that abysia would be a big threat to me and was frankly worried that you would invade my lands sooner or later. So I tried to aggressively raid your territory. (My neighbors were also powerful, but I raided them too) But a rush? Nope, didn't even try to get next to your cap. These multiple "invasions" that you speak of were really just on the outskirts of your lands. When you "beat back" those invasions was mainly because of my stupidity; the first time I forgot that all your armies have mapmove2 in MA! But surely I had no intention of going toe-to-toe with your mage-support.

Losing a bunch of my tigers to your fireballs early hurt, but the real shame is my 5 stales, which is what I think crippled me, sorry for that everyone.

But I don't know how this caused your downfall, from what I saw of those battles with Agartha, another 20 mage turns wouldn't have made the difference. Sure, he might have picked another target based on the scales, but why? Abysia is a good rush-target for Agartha once early-game is over...

But then again, this is only my third no-diplo game, so maybe I don't understand the intricacies of communicating with one's armies and position yet.

Good show earcaraxe! Thanks for setting this game up and for the feedback.

Larz · #28 July 22nd, 2011, 12:29 AM

I am going on vacation tomorrow (thru Tuesday) but am SUPPOSED to have internet access and am taking a laptop, so I should be able to do my turns. It would help me out, though, if the timer was temporarily increased to 48 hours in case I am too busy to do a turn one evening. Thanks.

Valerius · #29 July 22nd, 2011, 12:36 AM

Sure, hosting interval has been changed to 48 hours. Have a good vacation.

Btw, we've got a nice pace going and earcaraxe just listed 24 hours as hosting interval but if things get too be too much (maybe during the next round of wars) we can consider permanently going to 48 hours at some point.

earcaraxe · #30 July 22nd, 2011, 03:34 AM

thanks for the feedback, its much clearer now.

concerning your fair question about my chances versus agartha, i have thought about it lot: i think the difference would have been that had u not attacked, I wouldnt have recruited (that much) anathemant dragons, who r expensive, excellent battlemages and bad researchers, and wouldnt have spent that much gold on training those humanbred platoons. I would have had money to build castles, and researching power to quickly reach 'Opposition' to stop the statues. that surely would have slowed the invasion, i wonder if i had been able to stop it still.

I had no intention of attacking soon but it sure wasnt written on my forehead.

On to a slightly more general topic: based on my experience, early 1 on 1 wars versus an at least average opponent with a healthy empire(regardless of nation choice) nearly never worth it. (I would even say that its a useful principle for every multiplayer strategy game.) Maybe i just havent encountered efficient rushes yet.

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Originally Posted by Deadnature

You're quite right that tussling with you was a big mistake, however, I think you mis-interpret my strategy:

I realized that abysia would be a big threat to me and was frankly worried that you would invade my lands sooner or later. So I tried to aggressively raid your territory. (My neighbors were also powerful, but I raided them too) But a rush? Nope, didn't even try to get next to your cap. These multiple "invasions" that you speak of were really just on the outskirts of your lands. When you "beat back" those invasions was mainly because of my stupidity; the first time I forgot that all your armies have mapmove2 in MA! But surely I had no intention of going toe-to-toe with your mage-support.

Losing a bunch of my tigers to your fireballs early hurt, but the real shame is my 5 stales, which is what I think crippled me, sorry for that everyone.

But I don't know how this caused your downfall, from what I saw of those battles with Agartha, another 20 mage turns wouldn't have made the difference. Sure, he might have picked another target based on the scales, but why? Abysia is a good rush-target for Agartha once early-game is over...

But then again, this is only my third no-diplo game, so maybe I don't understand the intricacies of communicating with one's armies and position yet.

Good show earcaraxe! Thanks for setting this game up and for the feedback.