Who Reanimates? - Page 3

chrispedersen · #21 November 19th, 2009, 12:17 PM

Again, certain nations are designated 'dead' nations. They are able to summon as if they were 1 level higher than they actually are. (IE., and h3 undead priest of one of these nations can summon undead horseman instead of only longdead warriors).

This applies both to the number of undead, and the types eligible.

The list is far more than just Sauromatia - although I do not remember whose on it.

thejeff · #22 November 19th, 2009, 12:28 PM

I'm pretty sure that's not true. I could be wrong.
Undead/demonic H3s of Sauromatia and Ermor (MA/LA?) are able to reanimate long dead horse. There may be other nations.
Can undead/demonic H4s from any nation reanimate longdead horse? Can H1-2s from Sauromatia and Ermor reanimate better undead than H1-2s from other nations?

My understanding was that Sauromatia and Ermor got longdead horse, which most other nations did not. That it was not a boost to the priest's level, but just a special type they could reanimate.

Omnirizon · #23 November 19th, 2009, 04:28 PM

I'm pretty sure this is wrong too

Page 70 of the manual lists the reanimation order, and the numbers and types obtained for each level of priest. It even has the special undead Ermor gets, and it says nothing about Ermorian (or any other priest) getting a plus one.

Graeme Dice · #24 November 19th, 2009, 05:00 PM

The manual's wrong. H1 LA ermorian priests can reanimate longdead warriors.

Omnirizon · #25 November 19th, 2009, 05:17 PM

someone needs to add it to the 'lies my manual told me' thread, if it isn't already there

Trumanator · #26 November 19th, 2009, 09:12 PM

There is a special modding tag that can be applied to a nation to allow it to reanimate longdead horsemen. Thus it seems reasonable to assume that it has nothing to do with boosted priest levels.

thejeff · #27 November 19th, 2009, 10:42 PM

I just did some testing. As near as I can tell, everyone is right.

LA Ermor (and maybe other nations? Not MA) does get a +1. H3 can reanimate Horse and Lictors. H2 can reanimate Horse, H1 can do Longdead.

Separately, LA and MA Ermor can reanimate Longdead horsemen and Lictors. MA does so per the table in the book. Other nations cannot get Horse even with an H4 undead priest.
Sauromatia (and possibly others ?), but not EA Ermor can reanimate Longdead horse, but not Lictors.

chrispedersen · #28 November 27th, 2009, 01:59 PM

Its more or less like I said. Theres a mod command that allows a nation to reanimate horse. If a nation has that tag, all their priests act as +1 level.

That may not be what was intended, but I did some looking into it awhile ago and never found any nation that violated that rule.
My memory is rusty, but I think the there is a mannikin or similar summoning tag that acts akin.

thejeff · #29 November 27th, 2009, 02:34 PM

I didn't experiment with the mod command, but my testing showed that LA Ermor did get the +1 bonus, but neither MA Ermor nor Sauromatia did.

The mod command may combine the two, but nations in the base game don't need to follow the rule.

chrispedersen · #30 November 27th, 2009, 06:10 PM

Are you saying a Sauromatian Mound King H2
doesn't reanimate as an H3? Because I'm fairly sure it does.