Spell list for CPCS v0.9 - Page 3

Aezeal · #21 January 30th, 2009, 03:14 PM

-Does anyone know what are actual bonuses granted by the "unholy power" - effect?

--> from THE MANUAL!!!!!! + 4 attack and +4 AP

Burnsaber · #22 February 1st, 2009, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Aezeal

from THE MANUAL!!!!!! + 4 attack and +4 AP

Oh, right. Forgot about that. Thanks for the info.

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Originally Posted by Endoperez

I wonder what happens if a cloud spell uses #nextspell "flame eruption"? Will the cloud explode every turn? What about a cloud followed by Falling Frost, would it center on the cloud or would the cloud "cast" it and choose a target as normal?

I have no idea, but it's sure to be entertaining. I won't likely test that since no spell in planning has to use that kind of effects.

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Originally Posted by Endoperez

Possible Earth/Air spell: has three low-precision effects, each casts an area puff around itself. It's like Legions of Steel, except that it covers an uneven area, and you get more effects with higher Earth (so the affected area scales up very fast).

Hmm.. possibly. It would take some time to write all those #nextspells. It has the sound of complexity for complexines's (is that a word?) sake.

I just noted that I'm having a bit of trouble writing the description. Just running them through a spellchecker doesn't make them well written. If someone with good skills in english grammar would like to be of assistance, it'd be sweet.

I'll be soon making the first release version. But I'll give it thread of it's own. I'll keep the spell list and non-bug-related discussion here.

llamabeast · #23 February 1st, 2009, 08:27 AM

I'm very happy to be the spelling and grammar man. PM me when you've got a draft for me to read, and I'll go through it.

VedalkenBear · #24 February 2nd, 2009, 10:26 PM

Just today reading the Astrapelagist's description in Bogarus gave me an idea for a spell.

Twice-Blasted Curse
AAS
Range: 30+
Damage: 5+ AN Lightning damage
Secondaryeffectalways: Curse

More or less, a less-powerful lightning bolt that also curses the target.

Edit: Hrm. I see that we already have an A/S spell. Perhaps the Anger of God, to mimic Wrath of God (global), should be moved to S/A? Or I can change this up:

Twice-Blasted Curse
SSA
Range: 30+
Effect: Curse (MR negates)
SecondaryEffect: 3 AN lightning damage

Also, for underwater...

Crushing Pressure
AW
Range: 35+
AoE: 1+
Damage: 12
SecondaryEffect: Fear(0)

Basically, a 'normal damage' attack that can also do Fear, only allowed underwater. Should be extremely effective against common underwater chaff.

Edit2: Oh yes, and I see in the original post we have a "Fall Winds" spell, and an "Autumn Winds" spell. Shouldn't the healing one be "Spring Winds"?

Burnsaber · #25 February 3rd, 2009, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by llamabeast

I'm very happy to be the spelling and grammar man. PM me when you've got a draft for me to read, and I'll go through it.

Thank you.

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Originally Posted by VedalkenBear

Just today reading the Astrapelagist's description in Bogarus gave me an idea for a spell.

Twice-Blasted Curse
AAS
Range: 30+
Damage: 5+ AN Lightning damage
Secondaryeffectalways: Curse

More or less, a less-powerful lightning bolt that also curses the target.

Edit: Hrm. I see that we already have an A/S spell. Perhaps the Anger of God, to mimic Wrath of God (global), should be moved to S/A? Or I can change this up:

Twice-Blasted Curse
SSA
Range: 30+
Effect: Curse (MR negates)
SecondaryEffect: 3 AN lightning damage

Also, for underwater...

Crushing Pressure
AW
Range: 35+
AoE: 1+
Damage: 12
SecondaryEffect: Fear(0)

Basically, a 'normal damage' attack that can also do Fear, only allowed underwater. Should be extremely effective against common underwater chaff.

Edit2: Oh yes, and I see in the original post we have a "Fall Winds" spell, and an "Autumn Winds" spell. Shouldn't the healing one be "Spring Winds"?

Unfortunately, I've done both A/S and S/A spell. But that could work as a S/F spell. I've added "Cursed by Flame" to the list.

I'll also change the spell in one minor way. I'll make the curse the major effect and the damage secondary. Thus the unit will get cursed first and the receive damage -> making him likely to receive afflictions. Synergy man, synergy!

I also added your UW combat spell, what could you explain the reason for air magic? I could see it as a pure water spell.

VedalkenBear · #26 February 3rd, 2009, 03:28 PM

Err... isn't Astral Fire S/F? Do you really need another one? Synergy is all well and good, but balance is also rather useful at times. My second Twice-Blasted Curse was designed in the 'synergistic' way you propose. If you want something _really_ evil, you could do

Cursed Barb
NS
Nbr of Effects: 1+
Range: 30+ (or so)
Damage: 15 + curse
Secondary Effect: Strong/Death Poison

If each 'tick' of poison damage has a separate chance of giving Afflictions, this could rack them up in no time.

The UW spell was originally designed to be the exact opposite of Sailor's Death; that is, fill the 'gills' of Aquatic troops with Air. That is why it would be AW. Unfortunately, I don't know of a way to target just Aquatic troops, so the spell was reconcepted to use expanding air in water to create the same kind of shockwave that can occur on land (such as from lightning strikes).

Could it be just Water? Sure, but Water already has enough tricks for Underwater.

JimMorrison · #27 February 3rd, 2009, 03:49 PM

My spell was inspired by Sailors' Death as well, but the post seems to have been glossed over.....

Burnsaber · #28 February 3rd, 2009, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by VedalkenBear

Err... isn't Astral Fire S/F? Do you really need another one? Synergy is all well and good, but balance is also rather useful at times. My second Twice-Blasted Curse was designed in the 'synergistic' way you propose. If you want something _really_ evil, you could do

Cursed Barb
NS
Nbr of Effects: 1+
Range: 30+ (or so)
Damage: 15 + curse
Secondary Effect: Strong/Death Poison

If each 'tick' of poison damage has a separate chance of giving Afflictions, this could rack them up in no time.

The UW spell was originally designed to be the exact opposite of Sailor's Death; that is, fill the 'gills' of Aquatic troops with Air. That is why it would be AW. Unfortunately, I don't know of a way to target just Aquatic troops, so the spell was reconcepted to use expanding air in water to create the same kind of shockwave that can occur on land (such as from lightning strikes).

Could it be just Water? Sure, but Water already has enough tricks for Underwater.

Cursed Barbs is a sweet idea, I like the way our dicussions seem to go. My orginal idea for N/S combo wouldn't have worked anyway.

That Air explanation is a bit of stretch, it would probably be better if I didn't have to explain the spells physics in the description test. Yeah, and you can't make a spell that targets only amphibians, you can only exclude them (like constructs).

Earthquake is resistable by def, I know that. But anyone know the number it tests against? I was thinking of making a "quicksand" spell for W/E that'd instakill and be resisted by def and wondering if it could be balanced.

llamabeast · #29 February 3rd, 2009, 04:44 PM

Earthmeld + Quicksand = DOOM!

VedalkenBear · #30 February 3rd, 2009, 07:00 PM

Burn: Wait, you can exclude a certain type of monster from an effect? Then can you exclude amphibious creatures from an UW-only spell? That would 95% of the effect of an aquatic-only spell, no? You could name the spell 'Sailor's Revenge', in that case.

Jim: Ah, no, I did see your spell, but I think I saw mine from a flavor perspective, while yours is more from a mechanical perspective. Sailor's Death uses Water to suffocate land units; your spell uses Earth to suffocate water units. Same effect. Mine was more of a literal inversion of the effect. Sailor's Death turns air into water. My spell turns water into air.