Possble to resist eye shield? - Page 3

Baalz · #21 June 13th, 2009, 09:04 AM

Hehe, I think I mentioned this in my Eriu guide, Sidhe can cast resist elements. Toss in a frost brand of their own and a dragon helm and grin evilly as your opponent gnashes his teeth. They can also cast resist poison and lightning (just not all in the same battle).

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Originally Posted by DonCorazon

Hehe, is that you Cleve - I can't see?

Yeah, the Eye Shield/Sidhe combo sucked. I even had squeezed in an S blessing for a +1 MR boost knowing woodsmen can get pwned, but still ended up with legions of blind woodsmen and skratti on my disabled roster. Until, that is, I was able to find some warmongers who would trade me brands, which were worth their weight in gems, since even a blind skratti can hit the side of a barn with a frost brand.

cleveland · #22 June 13th, 2009, 08:59 PM

I meant to spill the secret after I was killed in Kingmaker, but forgot. Not the first time.

Q: Why is the Eye Shield so amazingly awesome?

A: Because to resist it, you have to pass a MR check against 12.

Q: Whaaaaaaa?

A:

Fate · #23 June 13th, 2009, 10:49 PM

Another fun point:

You can lose an eye simply for attacking that SQUARE. Not even just the unit.

So (my favorite) a trio of human commanders with decent defenses and eye shields can stand down Barbarians. Most of them are completely blinded on the FIRST swing - BEFORE they get to even make their attack roll!

The trick is to make sure they stand together. This trick loses its potency if they separate (less chance to blind the enemy on the first swing AND each commander individually takes more hits, instead of splitting them roughly into thirds).

Baalz · #24 June 13th, 2009, 11:19 PM

Haha, I'm having visions of hoburgs champions...6 of them in a square. Probably not cost effective but funny as hell, until the a single elephant costs you 60N.

MaxWilson · #25 June 15th, 2009, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by cleveland

I meant to spill the secret after I was killed in Kingmaker, but forgot. Not the first time.

Q: Why is the Eye Shield so amazingly awesome?

A: Because to resist it, you have to pass a MR check against 12.

Q: Whaaaaaaa?

A:

Wait, isn't that just saying that the Eye Shield has a penetration bonus of +2? That's nice, but it's nothing a little Antimagic can't handle. Am I misunderstanding your point?

-Max

Jarkko · #26 June 17th, 2009, 04:28 AM

Wonder if the eye-loss is checked before or after Awe. Does anybody know?

vfb · #27 June 17th, 2009, 05:16 AM

It's checked together. Well, actually Awe is checked first, but if you fail the Awe check and can't attack, you still have to make an eye shield check, and if you fail you lose an eye:

Trying to strike agains Awe 3 (mor 10)
Awe negated attack
hitunit 3498 313 dmg524288 spec4096 ba2
spec_mr pen 12 mr 9 (unr 3498 vic 313 dmg 11 eff 524288)

Same thing goes for gorgon petrification: you can be unable to attack the gorgon because of the Awe, but still get petrified.

Sombre · #28 June 17th, 2009, 06:49 AM

The hilarity of a fear/awe/eyeshield gorgon knows few bounds.

Stavis_L · #29 June 17th, 2009, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Sombre

The hilarity of a fear/awe/eyeshield gorgon knows few bounds.

Although...shouldn't eyeloss protect from Gorgon petrification? (Thematically, not game mechanics wise)

Also - anyone know if Gorgon's petrification stacks w/the Aegis?

Envisioning a DOM10/D10 Gorgon holding Eye Shield + Aegis (or Lantern Shield/Golden Shield if Aegis doesn't stack.) + Helm of Horror. Eep. Not that it'd happen :-)

Sombre · #30 June 17th, 2009, 08:58 AM

Jotun boulders!