What do you like to do when you're not dead yet?

[Gandalf Parker]

Originally Posted by Sombre

Oh I didn't realise you could survive as long as you have dominion. I thought 0 provinces 0 forts would do it.

Stealth preachers is probably an important factor as I was doing it. The game seems to declare you dead when it feels you cannot recover. For nations with no stealth preacher already purchased and active then losing your last province would probably be the nail on the coffin.

[thejeff]

Gandalf, are you actually saying you've been reduced to no provinces and kept playing?

I rarely keep playing that long, but I know one of the messages you get when an AI loses is something about not ruling any provinces. I'll grant that the AI is unlikely to have stealth preachers hidden away, but I assumed the message was specific about the cause.

Should be near impossible to actually destroy Vanheim then. Uber stealth preachers hidden throughout the world and just watch the rest of the game.
Lack of income will eventually remove any troops, but shouldn't effect commanders.

[Micah]

Always to the last man, but the degree of spite that goes with it depends on the situation...I've done the whole spectrum from pillaging my own provinces on the way out after being backstabbed to donating gems to my conqueror when I lost the war I started with him. A more or less fair and justified war will generally get a donation to the enemy of my enemy but relatively pristine provinces.

[JimMorrison]

Originally Posted by Gandalf Parker

Stealth preachers is probably an important factor as I was doing it. The game seems to declare you dead when it feels you cannot recover. For nations with no stealth preacher already purchased and active then losing your last province would probably be the nail on the coffin.

.........


XXXX, the god of XXXX has been permanently vanquished, at the end he did not rule a single province, and he now has nowhere to return.


I suppose due to the wording, there is the slight chance that a stealthy pretender could survive beyond this exact point, as long as they were physically alive - but other than the Lord of Night (sic?), are there any others?

[Illuminated One]

Originally Posted by WingedDog

never threat a war to player in another game for some actions he made in current game; never give gold, gems or items to another player in one game in order to receive gold, gems or items from him in another game

Lol!
I'd never have thought of that.
Ok, I wouldn't do it but it's a very funny idea.

[DonCorazon]

I have become a convert to the last man philosophy. I will never go AI. Also, degree of aggression on my part depends on the circumstances. If the aggresor is someone I was trying to make peace with then but they attacked anyway, then I will do all I can to harm them and help their foes.

If it was a war that I instigated (something I do on ocassion )that went sour - god forbid, I might even give my enemy my gems to help keep them in the race, since it always bothers me how turtlers or dogpilers have an edge over those who fight a fair one on one war (rare as those may be).

I think people underestimate how hard it can be to take a capital, so even when you have been knocked out of a game, you can still make it pretty tough for your enemy to capture the jewel of your nation - the capital - if you just stick it out. Too many people just go AI after losing a few provinces.

It can be fun just to see how long you can stay alive. And turns certainly are easy when you are down to one province.

[Amorphous]

I try to stay true to the disposition of the pretender - meaning that it entirely depends on how I have chosen to play till then.

A benevolent and good natured pretender will try to help a like minded pretender and try to secure future benefits for his believers. Pretenders of a generally evil disposition will mostly go for total annihilation of everything or spiting the major contributors to their downfall.

Most pretenders will fight to the bitter end as hope is usually the last thing lost.

In such cases I tend to try new and possibly strange ideas. Since all else failed, new thinking is obviously required.

[Gandalf Parker]

Originally Posted by WingedDog

I think there should be sticky in MP forum section with rules of ingame bahaviour,

Feel free to start one and at some point we may sticky it or at least link to it in another sticky (maybe the MP servers one?)

And even the moderators and staff do enforce some of those on this forum, Im not sure you can call it "rules".
Acceptable Guidelines?
MultiPlayer Ettiquette?
Justification for Shunning?

What you have isnt a bad start. But others have tried to create lists of rules, or "standard" game settings (nations banned, spells banned, etc) to make it easier to start games clearly by just referring to them like someone would the Marquis of Queensbury Rules or Roberts Rules of Order. But it usually turned out to be more trouble agreeing on than the poster thought it would be.

[Gandalf Parker]

I think Id generally prefer that people play it out.

Do not go quietly into the night
rage rage rage against the dying of the light - Dylan Thomas
What does that mean? It means dont be a putz and quit the
multiplayer game before all of your candles are snuffed!

On the other hand, if people would go AI when they quit a server game then all of the dominions servers would be much easier to "clean up" and keep only currently played games going on.

[Gandalf Parker]

Originally Posted by JimMorrison

I suppose due to the wording, there is the slight chance that a stealthy pretender could survive beyond this exact point, as long as they were physically alive - but other than the Lord of Night (sic?), are there any others?

I was using Lord of the Wild which is one of my favorites.
Ghost King, Vampire Queen, Master Druid are all standard to all nations I think.