MP: Smack - Running

[Denisius]

I think that the problem is now fixed, and that you can resume the Quick-Host.

[vfb]

When I access the llamaserver admin page, I still get this message:

The LlamaServer is a bit unhappy at the moment. I just came back from a few days away to find it acting very oddly (apologies to everyone who was spammed), so I thought I'd reboot it. Unfortunately I then wasn't able to restart it, and I've now exhausted all the ideas me and my (very hardware-savvy) housemate could come up with to revive it. So it looks like the current hardware incarnation of the server may be dead.

Fortunately, this isn't nearly so bad as it sounds. I still have all the data safe, and I'll get it running again very soon, either on my lab computer or on a virtual machine within my housemate's server. So all should be running again in the next day or two.

Thanks everyone for being so patient.

llamabeast

[vfb]

I did not get a turn emailed to me for Smack, so I thought it had not hosted. In addition, the status page on llamaserver showed:

Game: Smack
Turn number 7
Next turn due: 07:55 GMT on Thursday November 13th

Abysia 2h file received
C'tis 2h file received
Machaka 2h file received
Marignon 2h file received
Pangaea 2h file received
Pythium 2h file received

It looked like everyone had their turn in and it was going to host sometime next week, so I did a force hosting, and you all have received the new turn I am guessing.

But the turn file shows I staled, and it says turn 8 instead of turn 7.

Not only that, the Game Status page still shows:

Last updated at 08:25 GMT on Friday November 7th
Current time: 09:07 GMT

I think the llamaserver is still not feeling entirely well. "Last Update" and "Current Time" should basically be the same.

Are there any objections to just carrying on from here? The only other option is to try the "Roll game back to previous turn".

But I'd really prefer to avoid a rollback if at all possible.

Please let me know your vote:

- Play with turn 8 since everyone staled

OR

- Attempt to use the roll back function


Majority vote wins. Tie-breaker is no roll back.


Edit: Oh it's supposed to be turn 8! It's just that when the llamaserver hosted, it ignored all the .2h files. It's just as if I did not give any orders. Graphs are off so it's hard to tell if everyone else staled too... but the Hall of Fame has not changed at all, except all the non-dead HoF'ers got 1 more XP. Please vote in any case.

[vfb]

Thinking about this more, I should probably have just turned quickhost on, instead of doing a "force host"

I forgot I had turned it off. But now I'm worried about turning it back on, because the status page still says it's on Turn 7.

I'll wait and see what happens on the server and if the game eventually figures out that it forced hosting. In the admin log, it doesn't even record that I did that. Weird.

[vfb]

Did you all see the message from llamabeast?

Just in case:

Hi. On trying to host Smack just now, Dominions crashed. This is not a LlamaServer issue, but rather Dominions itself crashed with a "Nagot gick fel" error.

These errors are normally caused by a (generally inexplicable) problem with one of the players' 2h files. Therefore the LlamaServer moved all your 2h files away before hosting again. This is why you will receive a new turn file in which you've staled.

There are two options from here. Either you can treat the stale turn as a random event and carry on with the game, or you can roll back the turn and try to host again. If you try the latter your game admin will have to do the rollback via the admin options on the LlamaServer website, and you will all have to do your turns again. Note that in this case it is _really important_ that you actually do redo your turn, rather than just sending in the same one again (which people sometimes seem to do because they don't believe me). If you just send in the same file, hosting will simply fail again.

I hope you manage to get the game back on course, whichever option you go for.

Well, it sounds like a rollback is not going to cut it.

I think the best option is just to go forward with the current turn with everyone staling, treating the stale turn as a random event. Let's get this game back on the road! Does anyone have objections?

Hopefully llamabeast can send the failed turn to illwinter so they can debug the crash.

And everyone quit using provhax! ( <-- joke )

[jimkehn]

Let's just roll on. If we all staled, we all staled together, so no one has any big advantage. I know events may have happened, but then.....they may have happened anyway. I strongly urge to move on from here with the staled turns.

It will make me feel better for lasting an extra turn.

[jimkehn]

Well, I just got confirmation that I submitted my turn. And I also got confirmation that I revised my turn, which I did not. Funny. The LLamaserver.net Status Page seems to be refreshing properly, though, as the status for Smack looks right.

[vfb]

Llamabeast found out that the reason the turn crashed is because of lack of disk space.

He kindly regenerated turn 8.

Please use the new turn 8! Do not use the one where everyone staled.

I have increased the timer by 24 hours for this turn only, in case anyone would like to raise objections.

[vfb]

Admin:

We're just waiting for Pythium (OmikronWarrior) now.

Quickhost is on, so whenever he gets his turn in, the game will host.

The deadline is 21:52 GMT on Monday November 10th. The llamaserver seems fine now, so I won't make any further adjustments to the timer or quickhost unless I get a PM from someone.

[cupido2]

Ahem, we are sure that llamaserver is to blame, but we see Abysian forces on the Marignon-green provinces. I'm sure Teh Bird isn't too happy about that, as in the Book of Teh Bird is written:
"[...] et thou shalst resceat on yer own green as it est Teh Bird, ye only one [long, interesting, passage about the Greatness of Teh Bird] who gavesth thou yer green and thou shalst not trample on ye green of alterii nationii as Teh Bird, who est ye beginn et ye end [another very interesting passage concerning the wisdom of Teh Bird] will comesth from ye heaven, where Teh Bird [a passage of the ultimate knowledge of Teh Bird follows here] et burnesth on ye stake ye heretics who sacrilegii ye greens et if ye nationii tresspassiae est on flamii like Teh Bird [a passage that describes minutiously the flames, their color, form, etc. of Teh Bird] Harmageddon shalst be nigh et great war et death shallst comesth over all nationii et The Bird [a passage about the splendor of Teh Bird follows here] willst crush ye paganii [...]