Scales/bless changes you would like - Page 3

Endoperez · #21 March 1st, 2008, 11:07 AM

Bless that affected ranged attacks would most probably affect ranged spells as well. I don't like limiting the Air bless to just ranged units and aim, either. One Mirror Image at level 9 would be nice.

Cor2 · #22 March 1st, 2008, 02:03 PM

I would like to see a curse touch for Blood 9. Like the magic weapons who curse anyone they touch. I think it would be balanced.

I am scared of the mirror image for Air but now that its been nerfed shouldn't be that bad.

Edi · #23 March 1st, 2008, 03:07 PM

Pre-nerf mirror image would have been pretty damned nasty. Right now it sounds a lot better than the worthless shock resistance. It also gives a nice synergy with the air shield.

Endoperez · #24 March 1st, 2008, 03:23 PM

Exactly - Air Shield and mirror image combine to make something that should be pretty much like the old Mirror Image, AND it works well for the Heims. But if the Vans have Air 9, they don't have F9W9. F9A9 or W9A9 couldn't be worse that that, could they?

calmon · #25 March 1st, 2008, 03:53 PM

Air 9 giving mirror image is pretty useless for all glamour sacreds.

B0rsuk · #26 March 1st, 2008, 04:29 PM

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calmon said:
Air 9 giving mirror image is pretty useless for all glamour sacreds.

RIght !!!1 No bless should exist unless it can make Vans stronger !

Edi · #27 March 1st, 2008, 05:21 PM

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calmon said:
Air 9 giving mirror image is pretty useless for all glamour sacreds.

Let's see: Nations that have glamour sacreds are Vanheim (3 eras), Helheim, Tir na n'Og, Eriu. That's a whopping 6 nations out of 70 where Air bless won't give synergistic bonuses out of the bless effect, whereas now it's so weak that 0 out of those 70 are using it. If your post is an objection to changing shockres to mirror image, it's ridiculous beyond belief, especially since the glamour sacreds are already some of the best sacred units around.

B0rsuk · #28 March 1st, 2008, 05:27 PM

I think that mirror image on sacreds could be just too good in some cases, especially on numerous sacreds. Not only all sacred mages and priests would gain mirror image, but every single flagellant or jaguar warrior. And... wait a second. It could be just impossible to render. Imagine an army of 20 Jaguar Warriors. Even if each of them has only 4 fake images, it's 100 sprites to draw, or 5x more. Now 100 jaguar warriors....One thing for sure - it would look very, very ugly.

calmon · #29 March 1st, 2008, 05:31 PM

It was just an answer to endo, he wrote A9 as an option for Vans:

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Endoperez said:
Exactly - Air Shield and mirror image combine to make something that should be pretty much like the old Mirror Image, AND it works well for the Heims. But if the Vans have Air 9, they don't have F9W9. F9A9 or W9A9 couldn't be worse that that, could they?

Air 9 giving mirror image is pretty useless for all glamour sacreds.

Edi · #30 March 1st, 2008, 06:06 PM

Calmon, okay. It just came out a little terse, the way you said it. No harm

B0rsuk, we're talking one mirror image per sacred (such as glamour units already have) and having A9 would have to be a tradeoff with one of the other good blesses. So unless you want to have really sucky scales, no way you get that A9F9W9 bless. I could see A9/F9 and A9/W9 being viable combos, A9/D9 on some pretenders with a suitable chassis. So some of those would perhaps be tough, but many of them also don't have that great a defense, so the mirror image will go down more easily than from the Vans, een if you can't so easily use mass archers against it due to the air shield synergy.