Hidden in Snow - Page 3

Aethyr · #21 August 12th, 2007, 06:51 PM

Is there anything that does, or it is completely random?

Sir_Dr_D · #22 August 12th, 2007, 06:58 PM

I have had good luck with it everytime I casted it. How come some people seem to have good luck with it, and others always seem to have bad? Just coincidence?

Kristoffer O · #23 August 12th, 2007, 07:58 PM

Nothing affects it. Only player luck and pure coincidences.

If you get more wariors, you might get fewer of the normal ones. 1d(25-w) w=number of warriors (1d8 IIRC).
0-2 mages.

Lingchih · #24 August 13th, 2007, 03:04 AM

I don't know that it would matter in MP, but my Hidden in Snow troops have mopped up in my SP game. They seem to be extremely tough. I would have no problem with casting this spell in a MP game.

Meglobob · #25 August 13th, 2007, 10:08 AM

In MP this spell would only be useful to get the extra magic paths. Its just too expansive for what you get, which is far too random anyway.

The one time I cast it in MP, was just experimenting, got 1 mage, 17'ish warriors. The warriors died the next turn..., the mage was useful but not worth the gems.

PvK · #26 August 14th, 2007, 03:22 AM

Right ((Edit by the English police) reading "useful" as "efficient" or "competitive", the way it is typically abused in this forum). The point that it can give several nations magic paths in combos types and levels that they don't have, though, makes it well worth the cost, though how many castings it'll take to get that payoff is uncertain. Which is pretty interesting, IMO, though of course people who hate not to get what they want may get upset.

Lazy_Perfectionist · #27 August 14th, 2007, 03:40 AM

Out of curiosity, how many of you have tried it in early eras? I'd presume their lower protection would still be quite nice before armor really gets around.

PvK · #28 August 14th, 2007, 06:08 AM

I've used it (Edit: sorry, by "it" I meant Dragon Master) in early era, in a large SP game, having fun, with one of my many mages, mainly going for ice drakes to add to my undead / unfrozen army, since they are cold immune.

Kristoffer O · #29 August 14th, 2007, 12:07 PM

People tend to lack patience in MP I guess. If they can't calculate the gains they are reluctant to use a spell.

Hidden in Snow might not be worth it if you don't get a mage, but if you get two, you can assume thet one of them is better than the average one and probably worth it in his own right.

Meglobob · #30 August 14th, 2007, 04:25 PM

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Kristoffer O said:
People tend to lack patience in MP I guess.

Its not lack of patience, its the fact if your wasteful and ineffecient in MP, you end up very dead, very quickly.

To be competitive in MP you after manage your gems very carefully, this spell vs potiential gains is simply too expensive in gem cost as it stands now vs potential returns.

Like to see it influenced by season/luck/heat/cold scale, this may allow you to up the number of effects, thus make the spell more viable. It may then become a bargain to cast at certain times of the year with certain scales.