Conceptual Balance Mod (and readme file) 1.00 - Page 3

quantum_mechani · #21 January 30th, 2007, 01:45 PM

In the main forum there has been a lot of discussion about them being overpowered base game, much of which I completely agree with. I have not, however, seen a lot of discussion of their power in CB, following some direct as well as indirect nerfs.

PashaDawg · #22 February 1st, 2007, 12:50 AM

Good news!

The latest patch indeed fixes the bug that crashed the game if your mod was enabled. Yay.

Pasha

Turin · #23 February 1st, 2007, 02:10 PM

So we are clear to #clear?

PashaDawg · #24 February 1st, 2007, 02:48 PM

I hope so!

KissBlade · #25 February 8th, 2007, 04:59 AM

Hey qm, I think Van's are a bit too expensive right now. I know you're wary of the dual blessed vans but 110 IMO is too much. It pretty much axed the unit along with the fact that the rebalancing of the scales, indirectly balances the Van's a bit. Maybe 90 is a bit fairer price?

calmon · #26 February 8th, 2007, 06:57 AM

From the post above:

"Vanheim doesen't seem nerfed enough ... "

Seems there are very different oppinions here

Huzurdaddi · #27 February 22nd, 2007, 02:33 AM

It will be interesting to see how far you have to go to make the human pretenders a solid choice in MP.

Sombre · #28 February 28th, 2007, 04:05 AM

Edi made an excellent point in another thread that EA ulm warriors are very underpowered - they don't have very good ambi and they're using fairly long weapons so they end up making attacks at about 7 or 8 skill.

I'm going to try out this mod and I might update the modlist to consider whether nations are balanced to work with the CBM.

If I like the changes you've made I'll probably make versions of my own two nations (and maybe more) which fit the general balance scheme. Is there anywhere that I can see a summary of the kind of changes you've made? For example "cavalry generally made more useful, indy commanders made more expensive etc" ?

KissBlade · #29 February 28th, 2007, 04:09 AM

There's a read me that comes with the file. =) Also, there has been some debate and there is a strong chance that the chance to the raising of levels to the magic boosters will come down. Yay!

Sombre · #30 February 28th, 2007, 04:23 AM

I looked in the readme and there's a massive and detailed list of every single change,.. yes,.. which is very useful I'm sure. But what would be even more useful for people who haven't been part of the CBM debate would be a summary of the major sweeping changes and a brief rationale for them.

For example, "Indy commanders have all had their prices raised. This is to encourage use of national commanders" or "The resource costs of a great many types of weapon and armor have been increased making resources and castles more important generally" or whatever (I haven't played the mod yet so I don't know, that's just an example). If there was a summary of the broad changes like that it would certainly help people out. It would also help nation makers balance their mods to fit with CBM (as would a rough guide of balance - such as generally light infantry cost 8, heavies cost 10, elite humans 15 etc, base commanders cost 30 not 40, or whatever).

I just think it would be very useful to know the philosophy behind it all (a little more than just "to improve balance") as well as the specifics.