New pretender gods

[Boron]

A real necromancer for ermor would be stylish .
He should be another human pretender , a bit more expensive but special . He would e.g. get a few more deathgems or a discount on deathrituals .

He has made a contract with an old god about his soul . After some time passes ( 30-50 turns ) the old god consumes his soul and possesses him then . This weakens the body of the necromancer and he randomly loses in this process then 0-5 magic path(s) and 0-5 hp and his special bonus .


The other god i would like to see is a real Demongod unique for the 2 grim blood nations Abysia and Mictlan . I miss this "ancient and very powerful totally evil" type of god .

[johan osterman]

What's wrong with the ancient and very powerful totally evil earth mother.

More seriously: what's wrong with the ancient and very powerful totally evil Moloch. Hmm, the totally whimpy imps I suppose.

Edit: oops, posted as Johan - KO

[Thufir]

johan osterman said:
More seriously: what's wrong with the ancient and very powerful totally evil Moloch. Hmm, the totally whimpy imps I suppose.

Exactly! I think the Moloch precisely fits the description of what Boron is asking for (at least for Abysia), but would be so much more fun and so much more thematic if we fixed that imp problem

[Peter Ebbesen]

johan osterman said:
What's wrong with the ancient and very powerful totally evil earth mother.

Well, she is a bad momma, true enough. You could add her evil twin, the Barbie, (same basic shape) for a most malignant pretender indeed.

Of course, for something potentially really nasty, you could have an Aboleth pretender for R'lyeh.... *shudders* Or even worse, and Aboleth *theme* for R'lyeh. The Aboleths have taken over and the star children are reduced to slavery under their Aboleth overlords... Possibly the only theme that would add leaders to beat Jotunheim's in cost.

[Kristoffer O]

Peter Ebbesen said:

Of course, for something potentially really nasty, you could have an Aboleth pretender for R'lyeh.... *shudders* Or even worse, and Aboleth *theme* for R'lyeh. The Aboleths have taken over and the star children are reduced to slavery under their Aboleth overlords... Possibly the only theme that would add leaders to beat Jotunheim's in cost.

What scrying bowl have you been looking into?

Edit: hmm, this gremlin is looking disturbingly like some dead german leader.

[Gandalf Parker]

Peter Ebbesen said:

Of course, for something potentially really nasty, you could have an Aboleth pretender for R'lyeh.... *shudders* Or even worse, and Aboleth *theme* for R'lyeh. The Aboleths have taken over and the star children are reduced to slavery under their Aboleth overlords... Possibly the only theme that would add leaders to beat Jotunheim's in cost.

You can play with an aboleth pretender if you want. Or set it up for an AI to do it. Its in the MAP commands. Ive tried alot of different preenders such as harvester and horror and tree lord. It can be fun.

I miss the bat dude. Dark Lord. The original one with summons.

[Boron]

johan osterman said:
What's wrong with the ancient and very powerful totally evil earth mother.

More seriously: what's wrong with the ancient and very powerful totally evil Moloch. Hmm, the totally whimpy imps I suppose.

Edit: oops, posted as Johan - KO

My "problem" with the moloch is that he is available for almost all nations . And the description : "The moloch is an infernal angel called or sent from beyond ."
So he is evil but only a lackey of a way bigger evil .

Mictlan is good there with the lord of the night as their nation only demon god .
Such a nation specific god for abysia and ermor would be nice too imo .

The other "problem" i have with ermor that first you have mercy with them because they are like the spirits in Final Fantasy : The spirits within . Poor , abortive , disillusioned undeads . And there is the only "half-abortive" Broken empire theme .

And ermor is hordes but they are not frightening . A few priests stop ermorian national armies with ease .
So ermor are the kind of bad guys with which you have to have mercy .

I would like to see a nation which consists of some very powerful evil beings like demons / evil dragons etc. .
They wouldn't be numerous but really frightening , like jotunheim .

I am a big fan of the fantasy cliche of impossible to beat seeming evils like sauron/mordor in lord of the rings or the imperium in star wars .

The description from the PoD is quite evil though .
Perhaps i misunderstand simply the game concept .
You are on your way to ascend to a god but when you do this you are just infernal angel / demon prince XYZ .
Only once you defeat your enemies you ascend to a real powerful god .
I personally though always see my pretender as a real god already who defeats the other gods which i find more rewarding even because otherwise your pretender seems more unimportant .

If you play e.g. Abysia with a Moloch and summon finally the demon lords you get the feeling that they are your taskmaster and you are only an unimportant lackey of them .
So i would enjoy a stylish special pretender for abysia who has a description + looking which qualifies him to be of equal power with a demon lord .
Then you have the feeling you call your "brothers" for help and not your employer .
Like in diablo with Mephisto , Diablo and Baal they were 3 equal brothers .
Such an evil i would like to have as a god for some evil nations and not a minor one like a Vq/Moloch/PoD .
I would like a good counterpart to this too for the brave and good nations but there it is much harder to find a worthy role model .

[Lepakko]

i Miss Real Demon pretender 2 the abysians

and Spider pretender to machaka... Spiders need leader