Battlestar Galactica On SciFi Channel

[Starhawk]

Yeah I saw the ep of Buck Rogers....in 2002 (as I wasn't even around when it first aired). I was thinking "Well the plot is kind of lame but....wow look a tall that steam ).

As for the New Battlestar Galactica here's my oppinion in a nice ordered number list of why I'll probobly give it a shot:

1. Starbuck being a woman is kind of cool BECAYSE of the fact that Starbuck is Apallo's best friend, they are trying to show that a woman and a man can be the closest of friends while not having a cheesy love interest or sexual tension between them.

2. Boomber going from a short black guy to a short asian girl I also have no problem with (partly because of the fact that it's Grace Park ) and because although it looks like she might have a love interest it also doesn't look like it's gonna be one of the main characters which is always a good thing. And I always liked a cute lady that can kickass with the best of em.

3.The ships all look really good, including the revamped Vipers.

4. I got a glimpse of the Neo-Cylon battledroids and trust me you guys will not likely be disapointed.

5. YES the CYLONS are the badguys they turned evil of their own "choice" I guess, but yeah they are the evil imperialistic robots we've all come to know and love in the original series.

6. The female pilot from the original series "Sheeba" when she wasn't flying her fighter was buisy crying about one thing or another so I'm glad to see her gone.

7. Sci-Fi usually does a good job at remakes as we saw with Frank Hurburts DUNE and a few others.

[zen.]

I'm agreeing with you about the Starbuck thing, Starhawk. I read an interview with them that said they were only changing the gender; the buddy relationship between Starbuck and Apollo would be about the same or similar. Whether Starbuck's still a womanizer, I don't know.

I'm not familiar with most of the cast, but Olmos as Adama wasn't even recognizable. The moustache does a lot. heh heh

And a few more things: Wilma Deering kicked mucho ***, Sheba looked like she was going cry at any given time, Athena was Apollo's sister assigned to the Command Bridge, and that episode with all the female pilots (apparently they were converted cargo pilots and whatnot) I think he married Serina, played by Jane Seymour, no less. She probably made a better pilot than Sheba so they killed her off 50 minutes later. Or something.

No, the women of sci-fi didn't influence my growing up. Really.

zen

[Starhawk]

Well I've never liked the "I'm gonna cry over something everyone else is being stoic about just because I'm a girl" deal in the old sci-fi shows.

I mean in RL I have been raised around girls that can kickass and take a beating with the best of the guys (martial arts mainly, watching streetfights as well ) and I've always liked em especially now that I'm not a little kid anymore and realize just how hot some of them really are.

Anyway moving on I like that in modern day TV we see women that can be smart, kickass tough and good looking all at the same time.

[geoschmo]

Originally posted by Atrocities:
You really should watch the old Version from the late 70's. It debute on September 17th 1978 I believe and was 3 hours long.

Women fighter pilots is nothing new to BSG, as they had them in great numbers in the original series.

Uh, actually I think maybe you need to brush up on your old episodes. They had one female viper pilot on a regular basis. I can't remember her name but I think it was Appollo's sister. And she was always whining that they never let her fly combat and made her fly the shuttles. It was all very 70's TV war of the sexes crap. Finally they had one episode where all the male pilots got sick and the women folk had to defend the fleet. After that episode though they went back to just male pilots for the most part, although the one girl did get to be a regular member of the viper squadrons after that.

My first impression of making Starbuck a woman was "you got to be kidding me!". I am all for adding more strong female characters but I thought it would have been better to simply add them as new characters that weren't in the original. But after reading some of the back story it actually sounds like it might be kind of interesting. And it doesn't hurt that the actress they got to play her is HOT!

I have decided I am going to watch the new series and just take it on it's own merits. Instead of looking for discrepancies I am going to watch it as a totally new story and decide if I like it or not based on that. The original series was cool for the time and one of my favorite shows growing up, but in retrospect sucked pretty badly. I tried catching them on sci-fi a few months back and they were frankly unwatchable except for making fun of.

[Mudshark]

I just wonder if they are going to recycle the same space scenes 1,000 times like in the original series?

[geoschmo]

Originally posted by Mudshark:
I just wonder if they are going to recycle the same space scenes 1,000 times like in the original series?

Oh yeah, that same scene of the cylons approaching and rolling over into a dive every time there was an attack. That one became so ubiquitous it was in an RCA TV commercial for a while. Then there is the one they play every time a viper got behind one of the cylons: cut to an interior of a cylon fighter and the pilot looks back over his shoulder just before the ship explodes.

One of the nice things about the computer generated effects is once you set the basic paramaters and elements of the shot you can run it from different angles and what not and make several shots that look nothing alike. So hopefully no.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

so, i have to wonder how all those movies make women who's figures and faces don't fit the hollywood ideal of 'beutiful' feel?

and thus, the cosmetic's industry prosper's.

[ZeroAdunn]

I seem to remember one episode where they needed more viper pilots, and they wound up training a whole bunch of chicks. Eventually, after like their first main encounter (I think it was the episode with the secret cyclon post in that asteroid before they went into that section of space that was like a void) all the chic pilots are in the lounge. The two male viper pilots are being all hard core and stoic, while the chics are all laughing and talking about their mission. Great episode....

[Starhawk]

Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
so, i have to wonder how all those movies make women who's figures and faces don't fit the hollywood ideal of 'beutiful' feel?

and thus, the cosmetic's industry prosper's.

You'd be suprised about this but, I know A LOT girls right now and only two or three are truely unattractive there are a few that are all-right, a lot of them are at the very least cute and there are a few that are drop dead gorgeous....so I guess it's all a matter of if your one of those two or three unattractive girls in a room full of good looking ones .

Anyway, anyone know why it is that modern shows that remake old ones tend to turn the "bLasters" and laser weapons into slug thrower assault rifles and pistols? I'd really like an oppinion on this as it has been bugging me since I first noticed it about new TV remakes. I mean is there more drama in watching someone have a small hole made in their body from a bullet then a burn mark from a bLaster? What do you think?

[Arkcon]

Originally posted by Starhawk:
Anyway, anyone know why it is that modern shows that remake old ones tend to turn the "bLasters" and laser weapons into slug thrower assault rifles and pistols?

I think this is a shift in popular perceptions. More geeks are writing and watching scifi.

What could be called these days "hard scifi" is trying to apply "realisitic" physics and I guess that hand held "high energy" weapons don't work for people anymore.

Meh. I can suspend disbelief for any scifi technobabble, as long as the dialog is good.

I gotta say though, whoever is the captain of the Galactica has some big shoes to fill. Watch the reruns, Lorne Greene really ruled that show.

[ October 08, 2003, 13:11: Message edited by: Arkcon ]