OT: Season 3 BSG - Page 27

Atrocities · #**261** March 16th, 2007, 08:28 PM

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And anyway, Adama can't be a cylon has he is older than their entire race.

I made the argument that he had been replaced. The crazy chick cylon specifically apologiesed to someone for all the harm they had caused, that she didn't know he was a cylon. The cylon who is in love with Kara stated that Adama was a cylon. One of his missions PUT him near cylon space. He was the one who came up with the lets Find Earth scenario. It was his battlestar, that survived. He chose not to continue to fight but to run. And it was the boomer cylon who tried to kill him after he ordered her to blow up a basestar full of Boomer's. And don't forget Baltars cylon detector and how he reacted to the testing of people.

AgentZero · #**262** March 17th, 2007, 02:16 AM

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What does a vortex have to do with Star Trek? You lost me Zero.

Vortexes (thus far) in BSG = 0
Vortexes in Star Wars = 0
Vortexes in Firefly = 0
Vortexes in Stargate = 0 (or 1 if you want to be picky)
Vortexes in Star Trek = .... Lots and lots and lots and lots. Also lots of time travel.

Atrocities · #**263** March 17th, 2007, 02:52 AM

Ok so we call it something else. I still don't see why your trying to compare it to star trek. Hell Star Trek has something like 400 episodes so ya, they pretty much covered the God damned spectrum of names for time distortions and such. And for the record, what BSG is doing isn't really all that new. And BSG's producer is an ex-star trek writer/producer.

AgentZero · #**264** March 17th, 2007, 03:09 AM

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Atrocities said:
Ok so we call it something else.

I have absolutely no problem whatsoever with which word you use to describe the phenomena.

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I still don't see why your trying to compare it to star trek.

Because these sorts of phenomena are everywhere in Star Trek.

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...they pretty much covered the God damned spectrum of names for time distortions and such.

That is what I have the problem with. The whole 'Gee whiz, things didn't work out for us this time, but golly, look there's a swirly thing out in space. Let's all go through it and try again.' And if they only did it once or twice, I wouldn't have really minded but they did it all the time, so much so that to me, such contrivances as little swirly spots that pop up out of nowhere and let you go back to the exact moment required to change an unfavourable outcome have become indelibly linked to Star Trek.

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And for the record, what BSG is doing isn't really all that new.

Never said it was.

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And BSG's producer is an ex-star trek writer/producer.

Good to see someone learned something from Trek.

Randallw · #**265** March 17th, 2007, 04:16 AM

I found a bunch of spoilers on one of the rumour sites I follow about the end of season, you know if perhaps people want to know. It may be true or it might be likely rubbish but it includes who 4 of the other cylon models are.

Tim_Ward · #**266** March 17th, 2007, 01:45 PM

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Atrocities said:
I made the argument that he had been replaced.

Meh, we've never seen any evidence they've been doing that.

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The crazy chick cylon specifically apologiesed to someone for all the harm they had caused, that she didn't know he was a cylon.

Why would she apologise to Adama, if he was a cylon working for them? And if he's not working for them, but working for the Final Five who have a seperate adgenda, why all the speculation about the decisions Adama's made that supposedly help the Cylons?

EDIT: also a nitpick; she didn't apologise for all the harm caused, she just apologised for something without saying what. Now, the most obvious answer, or the answer we're lead to, is "I'm sorry we murdered 20 billion people for some vague religious reasons" indicating that the one she saw the face of someone who was something to do with the colonials (one of the Lords of Kobol?), but it could have been for anything. I could have been "sorry I went through all this fuss and blundered in here".

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The cylon who is in love with Kara stated that Adama was a cylon.

<daniel jackson>You don't think it's possible for a Cylon to lie, do you?</daniel jackson>

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And don't forget Baltars cylon detector and how he reacted to the testing of people.

He commissioned Baltar's Cylon Detector project in the first place. And it was either he or Roslin that suggested that they both go first.

Fyron · #**267** March 17th, 2007, 02:29 PM

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"Heh I think everyone has a grudge against the SciFi channel for one reason or another. (They killed Stargate SG-1, the bastards!)"

Stargate SG-1 ended at season 7. Sci-fi Channel then drug its corpse through the mud for several years. It's not really a "minority opinion."

TurinTurambar · #**268** March 17th, 2007, 05:01 PM

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Sci-fi Channel then drug its corpse through the mud for several years. It's not really a "minority opinion."

*dragged

Renegade 13 · #**269** March 17th, 2007, 05:19 PM

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Stargate SG-1 ended at season 7. Sci-fi Channel then drug its corpse through the mud for several years. It's not really a "minority opinion."

*raises hands* It wasn't me who said it was a minority opinion!

Atrocities · #**270** March 17th, 2007, 05:43 PM

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Imperator Fyron said:
Renegade 13 said:
"Heh I think everyone has a grudge against the SciFi channel for one reason or another. (They killed Stargate SG-1, the bastards!)"

Stargate SG-1 ended at season 7. Sci-fi Channel then drug its corpse through the mud for several years. It's not really a "minority opinion."

They didn't really drag it that far. I thought the new series was ok. Sure it had 3 of the old cast in it, but all in all, it wasn't that bad of a show. Fargate really did keep my interest. So I liked it.

Different topic.
The other day I put in the old TOS series DVD and watched Balance of Terror. It was just over 51 minutes long. I then watched the remastered version with the new special effects. WOW... loved it! However it was parred down to just over 40 minutes. I noticed that with a lot of shows lately, Enterprise, Fargate, Atlantis and so on, they are all right around the 40 minute mark. You can see the difference that 10 minutes makes in a show. That extra 10 minutes makes a hell of a lot of difference and I would hope that the trend to shorten shows in favor of adding more advertising reverses itself. Just think if BSG was 5 or even 10 minutes longer each episode.

The new remastered TOS episodes are quite good. I watched Dooms Day Machine and was very pleased with how they did the Special Effects. It just sucked that it was shortened by 10 minutes from the original version.

They cut out a lot of stuff that shouldn't have been removed. And that seems to be the trend now a days. And the bad thing is they don't put it back in even for the DVD collections.