[OT] Nation bashing - Page 2

Phoenix-D · #11 February 13th, 2003, 12:41 AM

We have this problem in America, its called Free speech, or LWL for Left Wing Liberalism"

Also has a paralell condition you might be thinking of known as RWC (right wing conservatism).

That article seemed to display much more sympoms of RWC..though it should be noted that oddly enough all the associated conditions are the same.

On a slightly more serious note, does anyone else find is amusing that many Republicans profess to be for less government? This may or may not be a national thing, but a lot of them around here say that then propose laws to increase government in pretty frivlous ways. Ex: a favorite is laws that legislate "Christian" ideas in a "secular" way. The most current example is a bill to force businesses to close on Sundays.

Phoenix-D

geoschmo · #12 February 13th, 2003, 02:14 AM

UE, no offense intended, but were you born yesterday? The French and Americans have had a love/hate relationship going back hundreds of years. And it's certainly not an American condition only. The French take American bashing to an art form. Do you not notice it because you live there?

And to answer your other question, the key point is the article you are quoting is from the opinion section. Surely French newspapers have opinion and editorial sections as well? The fact that it's in the WSJ is no more relevant than the underwear advertisment on page 26. It's the opinion of the writer.

Geoschmo

henk brouwer · #13 February 13th, 2003, 02:14 AM

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Already, most of the new ideas and policy proposals are coming from the political right. In recent years Italy, Spain and the Netherlands have elected center-right-governments.

Our right-wing-goverment here in the Netherlands fell after only 87 days in office (it was an unbelievable mess) hopefully ending the worst political year we ever had here. We just had new elections on jan22, and will most likely have a center-left-coalition in a couple of weeks.

Askan Nightbringer · #14 February 13th, 2003, 03:25 AM

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Originally posted by Phoenix-D:
On a slightly more serious note, does anyone else find is amusing that many Republicans profess to be for less government? This may or may not be a national thing, but a lot of them around here say that then propose laws to increase government in pretty frivlous ways. Ex: a favorite is laws that legislate "Christian" ideas in a "secular" way. The most current example is a bill to force businesses to close on Sundays.

Well the US is a fundamentalist Christian state.

Askan

Fyron · #15 February 13th, 2003, 03:33 AM

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Originally posted by Phoenix-D:
We have this problem in America, its called Free speech, or LWL for Left Wing Liberalism"

Also has a paralell condition you might be thinking of known as RWC (right wing conservatism).

That article seemed to display much more sympoms of RWC..though it should be noted that oddly enough all the associated conditions are the same.

On a slightly more serious note, does anyone else find is amusing that many Republicans profess to be for less government? This may or may not be a national thing, but a lot of them around here say that then propose laws to increase government in pretty frivlous ways. Ex: a favorite is laws that legislate "Christian" ideas in a "secular" way. The most current example is a bill to force businesses to close on Sundays.

Phoenix-D

Those would be hard-line religious conservatives, and do not represnt Republicans in general in any way. Most Republicans are for less government, period. Most Republicans are not very religious at all. Do tree-hugging hippies represent all Democrats? No, I didn't think so. Don't define the majority by a small and extremely vocal minority.

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Originally posted by Askan Nightbringer:
Well the US is a fundamentalist Christian state.

Askan

Excuse me? Just because the majority of US citizens are Christian or Christian-influenced does not mean that the US is a fundamentalist Christian state.

[ February 13, 2003, 01:37: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

Askan Nightbringer · #16 February 13th, 2003, 03:46 AM

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:

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Originally posted by Askan Nightbringer:
Well the US is a fundamentalist Christian state.

Askan

Excuse me? Just because the majority of US citizens are Christian or Christian-influenced does not mean that the US is a fundamentalist Christian state.

Oops maybe I should use more smileys

Its just a bit of George W speak.

Askan

Thermodyne · #17 February 13th, 2003, 04:13 AM

Some of you guys need to step back, clear your heads, and rethink your positions. America allows the people to choose the religion of their choice. Or even to not believe. So in reality, America is a nation of religious freedom. Freedom for all religions, not just Christians.

And, while we may be more or less limited to two parties, at least we have a stable balance of power between them. Neither side is able to gain a clear Lasting majority. And neither side is able to push forward with a non partisan agenda. It should also be noted that much of what has gone wrong for this administration was covered over during the Last one. Enron did not go broke over night, and neither did WorldCom. I think we all remember what would happen every time a certain young ladies name was on the front page of the Washington Post. Sure as $hit, Iraq would be the target of a few SLCM�s.

The rest of the world comes to America looking for opportunity, freedom, and a better life. When the policies of other nations fail, it is America that steps up and pays the price to put it right. When storms or quakes ravage the world, it is America that opens the coffers and provides aid and cash. When the forces of aggression are on the move, it is more often than not, American blood that has bared the way. And let us not forget who came to the aid of Western Europe on two occasions. And who footed the bill for rebuilding Europe after the Last war. We should also remember who held the line for democracy when Europe was bankrupted by war. And what nation has ever been so kind to it's defeated foes? And it was America that did the majority of the work when Berlin was blockaded. But now Germany is united, and France is...well...France. So we will have a new round of European Nationalism. And the old cast will flex their mustles as they have in the past. Then who knows what will happen? Probably just the same thing that has happened in the past. They will tire of listening to each other and we will have round three.

The one sure thing in all of this is that America will do what is needed to cut the head off of this snake with or with out the help of our dear allies. And should it be without, then there will be one less worry for the planners.

tesco samoa · #18 February 13th, 2003, 04:18 AM

when i was in here earlier... it was over three pages of ummm ***Crap****

now it has dropped down in size...

My question is there a soccer mom as an admin at shrapnel now ????

No I do not think we need to take the piss at nations , backgrounds etc... here as we all come here to avoid that stuff.....

but there is two disterbing trends in the shrapnel forums lately

1. political threads
2. deleting Posts...

whats up

tesco samoa · #19 February 13th, 2003, 04:20 AM

oppss that was the other tread... sorry to mix BEL BASH up with the US BASH...

My bad...

Phoenix-D · #20 February 13th, 2003, 04:25 AM

"Those would be hard-line religious conservatives, and do not represnt Republicans in general in any way. Most Republicans are for less government, period. Most Republicans are not very religious at all. Do tree-hugging hippies represent all Democrats? No, I didn't think so. Don't define the majority by a small and extremely vocal minority."

Notice I said many. I think we have a few more of that breed around here.

Phoenix-D