Siege of Jadotville has anyone done a scenario on this

[Suhiir]

Just found this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9yquVGZrQU

[scorpio_rocks]

The film is on Netflix...

[Karagin]

Originally Posted by MarkSheppard

Hey KARANGIN...

would you mind posting all your old scenarios or collected SP2 scenarios?

Okay, I found a large number of older scenarios. A lot of the ones found are for SP1 and SP2 as well as the way early versions of the what we have now. I would love to convert them all over to the current format, maps included. I can share what I have once I figure out what is there. I will break things down into games and maps for each.

[SaS TrooP]

OK, maybe I could just do Jadotville? I will use Green OOB and set it as Irish, I do have general idea how it worked like.

[MarkSheppard]

Originally Posted by SaS TrooP

OK, maybe I could just do Jadotville? I will use Green OOB and set it as Irish, I do have general idea how it worked like.

I could rebuild the old Cyberstratege Scenario.

[DRG]

Certainly, that would allow you to show how all the work you have done can be applied

[MarkSheppard]

OK, So here's how you do it:

(I'm up to version 2.6 now):

SP_Unified_Dumper_v2-6.exe

################################################## ###########
SELECT GAME TO DUMP SCENARIOS FOR
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1.) Dump Steel Panthers I
2.) Dump Steel Panthers II: Modern Battles
################################################## ###########
3.) Dump SPCAMO WW2/MBT (Version 3.0+)
4.) Partial CSV Load into SPCAMO WW2/MBT (Version 3.0+
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2.

################################################## ###########
SELECT SCENARIO FOLDER TO INSPECT
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0. Stock SSI SP2 Scenarios
1.) --Campaign A: Korea 1950
2.) --Campaign B: Golan Heights 1973
3.) --Campaign C: Germany 1980
4.) --Campaign D: Desert Storm 1991
5.) --Campaign E: China War 1997
6.) --Campaign F: Korea 1998
7.) --Campaign G: Okinawa 1998
8.) --Campaign H: B.E.F. 1999
9.) --Campaign I: Rhineland 1999
10) --Campaign J: Bulge 1999
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11.) Libya 1998 Campaign (repl. Okinawa 1998)
12.) CyberStratege Bosnia 1999 Campaign
13.) CyberStratege Chad 2002 Campaign
14.) CyberStratege Falklands 1982 Campaign
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15.) Western Scenarios
16.) European Scenarios
17.) Middle East Scenarios
18.) Asian Scenarios
19.) South America/Africa Scenarios
20.) IDF Pack
21.) Team YANKEE Pack
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22.) CyberStratege Affreux Pack
23.) CyberStratege Albania Pack
24.) CyberStratege Indochina Pack
25.) CyberStratege SP2 Pack
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26.) SP2WW2 (v1) Cyberstrategie Pack
27.) SPWW2 (v2) Cyberstrategie Pack
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28.) USER SCENARIOS
29.) USER CAMPAIGNS

Scenario Pack Selected!
#0: Les irlandais de Jadotville : (SCEN100.DAT)
#1: E'ville, l'O.N.U. attaque : (SCEN101.DAT)
#2: Lima 1 franchit la Lufubu : (SCEN102.DAT)
#3: En route vers Kindu ! : (SCEN103.DAT)
#4: Ops "Dragon Rouge" : (SCEN104.DAT)
#5: La colonne Muller : (SCEN105.DAT)
#6: Avertisseent a Idi Amin Dada : (SCEN106.DAT)
#7: L'ex-camp de la Force Publique : (SCEN107.DAT)
#8: Zorro 1, Ops Violette Imperiale : (SCEN108.DAT)
#9: Aramis, Ops Violette Imperiale : (SCEN109.DAT)
#10: La revolte des "Affreux" : (SCEN110.DAT)
#11: La prise de Bukavu : (SCEN111.DAT)
#12: La fin des "Affreux" : (SCEN112.DAT)
#13: Le 2e Rep saute sur Kolwezy : (SCEN113.DAT)

Select 0.

This is a compressed SP2 Scenario File!
Analyzing DUMP\SCEN100.DAT for decompression...
Unpacking Critical Scenario Sections....
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Sections Unpacked and ready for editing....

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FILE CORRECTLY DUMPED.
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DONE WITH EVERYTHING! WAITING FOR YOUR INPUT

In my latest updates, I changed operation slightly so that everything is now dumped into:

\DUMP

to keep things neat and clean.

So in the directory, we now see:

S17_COMP_ORIGINAL.BIN
S17_UNCOMPRESSED.BIN
S1_COMP_ORIGINAL.BIN
S1_UNCOMPRESSED.BIN
S34_COMP_ORIGINAL.BIN
S34_UNCOMPRESSED.BIN
S35_COMP_ORIGINAL.BIN
S35_UNCOMPRESSED.BIN
S37_COMP_ORIGINAL.BIN
S37_UNCOMPRESSED.BIN
SCEN100.CMT
SCEN100.DAT
SCEN100.TXT
SP2_Cyber_Affreux_100.DAT_Bombard.csv
SP2_Cyber_Affreux_100.DAT_Briefing.txt
SP2_Cyber_Affreux_100.DAT_Formations.csv
SP2_Cyber_Affreux_100.DAT_Leaders.csv
SP2_Cyber_Affreux_100.DAT_Scenario_Data.csv
SP2_Cyber_Affreux_100.DAT_Units.csv
SP2_Cyber_Affreux_100.DAT_VLOCs.csv

The BIN files are basically from the decompression process for compressed scenario files; the SCEN100.* files are the original files from the ZIP archive.

The .txt and CSV files are the analyzed files.

Because it's a compressed SP2 scenario, we can load it in WW2Map.exe via:

1.) Start WW2MAP
2.) Load CLRWW2v3.DAT (premade blank version 3 SPCAMO map)
3.) CONVERT ->WW2 2.x Map

and select SCEN100.DAT in the DUMP directory.

I've saved it as "JadotvilleMAP.dat" and a copy of it as "spmap999.dat".

A special set of SP2 OOBs shipped with the Affreux pack on the CyberStratege CDROM, and I loaded them up (and the original SP2 Scen) in SP2 in DOSBOX.

Irish are shown as having:

Inf Squads
M1 Rifles
Madsen LMGs

SMG Squads
Madsen SMGs

Machine GUns:
7.62mm Madsen MMGs
Madsen SMGs

Congolese/Belgian Forces are shown as having:

Katangis FAL
FN-FAL
FN-MAG LMG
FN BAR Type D

Katangis SAFN
SAFN Rifle
FN BAR Type D
FN BAR Type D

Mercenaries are shown as:

Scouts
FN-FAL
FN-MAG LMG

Mercenarie FAL
FN-FAL
FN-MAG LMG
FN-MAG LMG
Rifle Grenade

The Fouga Magister has:
7.62mm F1 Machine Gun
2 x 5 inch rockets

So let's start by looking at the basic scenario data:

I popped into MOBHACK to see what's what.

RANDOM THOUGHT: It occurred to me that OBAT80 - United Nations would be a good place to put a few Irish units, since all of their actions in the modern era have been peacekeeping?

Anyway, investigating further on Wikipedia:

Ireland had a total of 24 Madsen machine guns, all in .303 calibre. They armed the Irish army's Landsverk L60 light tanks, Leyland Armoured Cars, Landsverk L180 armoured cars, and Dodge Armoured Cars. In the 1950s .30 Browning machine guns replaced the Madsens still in Irish service.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern...the_Irish_Army

M2 HB - IOC 1970s
FN-MAG - IOC 1964

https://forum.irishmilitaryonline.co...hp/t-1949.html

Apparently the Bren LMG was in use with the Irish Army from 1940 onward, with Bren Mark III being purchased in 1955.

https://forum.irishmilitaryonline.co...hp/t-1255.html

Says Irish snipers had No.4 Mk1(T) Enfields, and then a FAL with 4x scope and then Accuracy International Rifles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Gustaf_m/45

Seems the Spedish K (Carl Gustaf m/45) SMG was used by Ireland.

Siege at Jadotville: The Irish Army’s Forgotten Battle By Declan Power says:

Irish Weapons:
9mm Browning Automatic Pistol (BAP)
FN FAL
Bren Gun
Carl Gustaf SMG

Interview says

What armoured cars and weapons did you have at Jadotville?

We had two World War II armoured cars that had been homemade in Ireland that carried a Vickers machine gun in each of them. The weapons that the private soldier would have had were FN rifles. These were Belgian and had been issued to us just prior to us leaving Ireland. They were reasonably modern.

We also had 81mm mortars but these were the ones that were left behind and never arrived so we had 60mm mortars. They had a shot range of about a mile and we had about four 84mm anti-tank guns. The officers and NCOs equipment included Gustav sub-machine guns with a range of about 100 yards and Webley revolvers, which were pretty ancient at that stage.

So that was our main armament. We had no mines, barbed wire or trip flares or anything like that for a proper defensive situation.

I ended up doing this scenario by hand, using the advanced scenhack editor and the CLONE UNIT feature in the built in editor. Not every conversion needs it, particularly if it's a simple scenario like Jadotville.

I'm not quite sure how well it works, but here we go:

The Irish of Jadotville *
*
Advance of Katanga *
_________against*
_____ Irish delay *
*
Date: September 13, 1961 *
Site: Jadotville - Katanga *
*
On 11 July 1960, the Republic of Katanga declared it's independence from Congo; the secession being backed by the Union Minière du Haut Katanga, a Belgian mining company.*
*
The Katangese state quickly proceeded to raise an army -- the Katanga Gendarmerie -- with the training efforts of Belgian military advisors and mercenaries of various nationalities.*
*
UN Security Council Resolutions passed in the summer of 1960 provided for a peacekeeping force to be deployed to the Congo/Katanga region.*
*
In September 1961, a contigent of 155 Irish Troops (A Company) arrived in the mining town of Jadotville, from whence the Uranium that the atomic bombs dropped on Japan in 1945 had come from.*
*
On the morning of 13 September 1961, the Katangese attacked while the Irish were attending an open air mass. The subsequent five day battle lasted until 17 September, when the Irish were forced to surrender, low on ammunition, food and water. Subsequently, the Irish were held as prisoners for a month before being released as part of a prisoner exchange with the Congo government.

[DRG]

Well it loads. The maps are a bit odd in that they are only using the first few flat tiles but that can be fixed but at first glance, it's great that something like that could be resurrected for this version of the game...... Great Job but it's a bit odd it's done as a battle against the Irish

Maybe someone can do a AAR

[Karagin]

Thanks! I will give it ago over the next couple of days!

[Karagin]

So where does one get SP_Unified_Dumper_v2-6.exe?