Wh... wha.... what happened to the community?? :'(

[thejeff]

BTW: Have I just blacked out the Zen incident? I poked around with the search function a bit, but didn't see anything explosive with his last posts.

[Knai]

I'm relatively new here. Who was Zen and what happened?

[Gandalf Parker]

Zen was a very active map maker, modder, programmer, and a very popular moderator.
He created the CBm mod for one thing. And his departure also caused a rash of sympathetic departures. For all of the reasons given why the previous banishments would destroy this forum, I felt that Zen had already been that route and more already showing that as long as there is influx of new people then this forum will survive just about anything.

Frank Trollman was another I thought was missing from the poll unnecessarily.

Then again, one of the most common parting conversations of the banned always reminds us that you can never truly ban anyone (though they rarely seem to understand that makes no difference).
But like the Dom3 song in the parody thread says...
What if xxxxxxx was one of us?
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showp...1&postcount=35

[Executor]

The only downside I see, so far, is a lower game quality .
I see a lot vets are registered on the other forum, doe I don't know if they changed the team completely or still lurk on both forums.

Anyway, my point was that it's a shame to lose good players.

And the benefits from this, well, now we can organize a "new forum meet old forum" game, an all star game!

[Stagger Lee]

Originally Posted by Executor

The only downside I see, so far, is a lower game quality .
I see a lot vets are registered on the other forum, doe I don't know if they changed the team completely or still lurk on both forums.

Anyway, my point was that it's a shame to lose good players.

And the benefits from this, well, now we can organize a "new forum meet old forum" game, an all star game!

Hmmm...

I think the game thread would be over there by default, eh?

[Executor]

I'm pretty sure neither side would agree, so than they'd open up a third forum for that. hahaha

[Squirrelloid]

Gandalf, its hard to include FrankTrollman in a post about forum drama when he deleted all his posts on this forum. Whatever drama was there is gone.

It can't just have been drama in the past, it must be drama we can go and savor. (Similarly, I've seen none of the Zen-related posts, if there are any, so if there was drama we need documentation!)

[Gandalf Parker]

Well some of the drama of Frank Trollman can be discovered thru the magic of Google which is aware of the Archived posts.
"Frank Trollman" site:forum.shrapnelgames.com
which is a trick to keep in mind since it totally whips the in-house search feature.

One of the drama threads..
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/archi...p/t-34058.html
I believe that we can all thank FT for the present policy which allows us very limited editing capabilities.

The same searching is true of Zen but its much harder to pin down since there are multiple variations of the login in use.

But one of the reasons I bring it up was the amount of surprise shown over the lack of info. Shrapnel has NEVER been much forthcoming with information in such situations. Not FT, Norfleet, Zen, me, Sombre and many others. Usually because most of it occurs in private conversations or emails so providing that info would be highly improper.

[Squirrelloid]

Its pretty obvious why Norfleet is no longer with us - that was rather public.

[Gandalf Parker]

I guess its relative. Most of the interesting discussions I remember about Norfleet involved betas, moderators, devs and staff. Im not sure if the public discussions ever got it quite right.