.com.unity Forums
  The Official e-Store of Shrapnel Games

This Month's Specials

The Star & the Crescent- Save $9.00
winSPWW2- Save $6.00

   







Go Back   .com.unity Forums > Illwinter Game Design > Dominions 3: The Awakening > Multiplayer and AARs

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Old March 11th, 2010, 04:22 PM

Trumanator Trumanator is offline
BANNED USER
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Tacoma WA, USA
Posts: 1,314
Thanks: 103
Thanked 72 Times in 50 Posts
Trumanator is on a distinguished road
Default Re: New HoF brain storm

Well what if player A's games were invite only experts games? The HoF is a very imprecise system, and at best provides guidelines for who is good/lucky and who isn't. Trying to quantify and qualify everything is just setting up for frustration.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old March 11th, 2010, 04:59 PM
Gandalf Parker's Avatar

Gandalf Parker Gandalf Parker is offline
Shrapnel Fanatic
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Vacaville, CA, USA
Posts: 13,736
Thanks: 341
Thanked 479 Times in 326 Posts
Gandalf Parker is on a distinguished road
Default Re: New HoF brain storm

What if a game is big-map and the winner was basically the one who could stand out the most against late-game MM?

Its better than nothing. It does help for the discussions that toss out absolutes without qualifying them. Such as xxxxx can never win, or xxxxx always loses. (nations, not people). Its nice to see the spread.

But its never going to replace a real ladder system which has been discussed elsewhere. And even those arent perfect. To get even close to a ladder system the games would all have to be duels with the same game settings (map, mods, etc)
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old March 11th, 2010, 05:47 PM
vfb's Avatar

vfb vfb is offline
General
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Japan
Posts: 3,691
Thanks: 269
Thanked 397 Times in 200 Posts
vfb is on a distinguished road
Default Re: New HoF brain storm

The HoF is an evil abomination that causes people to gankfest and min/max instead of having fun. IMVHO.
__________________
Whether he submitted the post, or whether he did not, made no difference. The Thought Police would get him just the same. He had committed— would still have committed, even if he had never set pen to paper— the essential crime that contained all others in itself. Thoughtcrime, they called it. Thoughtcrime was not a thing that could be concealed forever.
http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old March 11th, 2010, 06:08 PM
WraithLord's Avatar

WraithLord WraithLord is offline
General
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Tel Aviv, Israel
Posts: 3,465
Thanks: 511
Thanked 162 Times in 86 Posts
WraithLord is on a distinguished road
Default Re: New HoF brain storm

Good points. I agree with them all.
That said, I'm under the impression most players want HoF. If I'm mistaken and most agree with you vfb then I'll drop the ball. My objective is to do this as a service to the community. I'm very far from advocating for HoF myself.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old March 11th, 2010, 06:32 PM
vfb's Avatar

vfb vfb is offline
General
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Japan
Posts: 3,691
Thanks: 269
Thanked 397 Times in 200 Posts
vfb is on a distinguished road
Default Re: New HoF brain storm

Of course everyone wants it! That's why everyone gankfests and min/max-es.
__________________
Whether he submitted the post, or whether he did not, made no difference. The Thought Police would get him just the same. He had committed— would still have committed, even if he had never set pen to paper— the essential crime that contained all others in itself. Thoughtcrime, they called it. Thoughtcrime was not a thing that could be concealed forever.
http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old March 11th, 2010, 06:32 PM
djo's Avatar

djo djo is offline
Second Lieutenant
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: west of DC
Posts: 587
Thanks: 6
Thanked 13 Times in 9 Posts
djo is on a distinguished road
Default Re: New HoF brain storm

You might (either for this or some other project) look into JSON as a lightweight persistence format (www.json.org). Your data looks a lot like a dictionary, and JSON will do that fine. There's a parser module in the Python stdlib since 2.6.

I offer this as a tip from another Pythonista, not to try to influence you to change your mind on your current format. I've liked JSON when I wanted something more than key-value but less than XML.

Last edited by djo; March 11th, 2010 at 06:33 PM.. Reason: spelling
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to djo For This Useful Post:
  #17  
Old March 11th, 2010, 07:05 PM
Gandalf Parker's Avatar

Gandalf Parker Gandalf Parker is offline
Shrapnel Fanatic
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Vacaville, CA, USA
Posts: 13,736
Thanks: 341
Thanked 479 Times in 326 Posts
Gandalf Parker is on a distinguished road
Default Re: New HoF brain storm

As I said, it does serve a purpose. My impression is that people like to post their wins somewhere (for the first few months anyway). With many new people coming in its probably a worthy service. Its kindof a graffitti wall to show they progressed from the "Introduce Yourself" thread to the "Hall of Fame" for their first few wins.

As for cleaning it up.. Id like the data to be made neat. Id love to see it run thru a charting program even if the data isnt totally scientific. But it might not be worth that much effort.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old March 21st, 2010, 10:33 AM
WraithLord's Avatar

WraithLord WraithLord is offline
General
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Tel Aviv, Israel
Posts: 3,465
Thanks: 511
Thanked 162 Times in 86 Posts
WraithLord is on a distinguished road
Default Re: New HoF brain storm

status update:
Things were coming up nicely. I had completed the data gathering layer. Now all I'm missing is to write the report generator.
Unfortunately mother nature has hit me with the flu and when I was finally able to crawl out of bad and get to the office my boss has hit me with tons of burning issues. I thus foretell that I'd be seriously slowed down this week.

I would like to ask again who would like to participate in setting up and maintaining the new HoF. A 2nd hand would allow to get to a working HoF much faster.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old March 26th, 2010, 09:59 AM
Hadrian_II's Avatar

Hadrian_II Hadrian_II is offline
Major
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Bern, Switzerland
Posts: 1,109
Thanks: 14
Thanked 17 Times in 14 Posts
Hadrian_II is on a distinguished road
Default Re: New HoF brain storm

i can help you if you want, just contact me with whatever i can do for you
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Hadrian_II For This Useful Post:
  #20  
Old March 26th, 2010, 01:03 PM
WraithLord's Avatar

WraithLord WraithLord is offline
General
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Tel Aviv, Israel
Posts: 3,465
Thanks: 511
Thanked 162 Times in 86 Posts
WraithLord is on a distinguished road
Default Re: New HoF brain storm

Hadrian_II, thank you for your generous offer to help.
I'm about 60% done and there's a task in which you can greatly help. Please send me your email address and I'll send you the details.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:01 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1999 - 2024, Shrapnel Games, Inc. - All Rights Reserved.