EA Ermor healing and healing mechanics

[thejeff]

Not just disease from old age. Any old age affliction is incurable by normal healers.

Healers can cure battle afflictions on living creatures. Old age afflictions and the undead can only be cured by Gift of Health or the Chalice.

[AreaOfEffect]

Originally Posted by rabelais

How does the chalice work? I've never gotten it.

It has a really good chance of curing each affliction in the province it is located in. Stick it on a commander and see.

[revenant2]

Originally Posted by chrispedersen

I have to agree with this. Whilst playing marignon in glory
I routinely has 30+ diseased sages, with a faerie quean that was attempting to heal them.

I don't remember her *ever* curing a disease.

My apologies in advance for responding to an old thread, but I've done some informal testing of EA Ermor's healing ability in a solo game, and I noticed something odd: There seems to be some type of game mechanic that prevents effective healing when there are certain types of incurable afflictions in the same province.

This is purely anecdotal, but I had about 10 mixed healers (between 20 and 30 ability) in a province trying to heal two units that I purposely feebleminded via mind hunt. In that same province, I also had a feebleminded sphinx pretender and several old, diseased units, all of whom were incurable. I was never able to heal anybody even after many (10+) turns of trying.

However, when I moved a three of the healers and the two feebleminded (but curable) units to another province, they were healed within a turn or two.

My guess is that the healers kept trying to heal incurable afflictions over and over again. I'd suggest separating the terminal patients from the units you want to heal and see if that improves anything.

[Soyweiser]

That actually looks like a bug. Post it in the bugs thread.

[revenant2]

Originally Posted by Soyweiser

That actually looks like a bug. Post it in the bugs thread.

That's a good idea.

I was doing additional testing with EA Ermor, and it looks like any battlefield afflictions, i.e., those not caused by old age, on a unit with old age is not curable as well.

I had 10+ healers trying to heal a couple of Augur Elders that I purposely feebleminded in a test game, but with no luck. However, when I did the same thing for a normal unit there were no problems healing them.

I tried empowering the unit with nature magic to make it young again, but I still wasn't able to cure them.

[Soyweiser]

If you have the old age tag you cannot heal any afflictions using normal healers, no matter the source of the affliction.

[thejeff]

Empowering the unit with nature to become young should have worked though. As long as you had enough nature to get below old.

I have done that and seen it work.

Actually, I'm not sure I've tested it with a unit that didn't start with some nature magic. I'd be surprised if that made a difference.

[JonBrave]

Originally Posted by Soyweiser

If you have the old age tag you cannot heal any afflictions using normal healers, no matter the source of the affliction.

That is an extremely simple piece of useful information!
Where do you glean this sort of fact from?

[Soyweiser]

common knowledge. repeated so often that I do not know where I got it from.

[Peter Ebbesen]

That old age afflictions can only be healed by Gift of Health and the Chalice was discovered fairly shortly after Dom3 release and ended up in the FAQ on this very forum as well as the wikis, so these days it is assumed to be common knowledge, as it is featured in all the places an inquisitive player is likely to look for any further information on gameplay mechanics.