No love for Holy??

[HoneyBadger]

Sneaky little priests undid my triple 10 (Earth, Water, Nature if I remember correctly-Niefel doesn't need a water bless, by the way...) bless Niefel giants in an MP game.

I wasn't winning, but I was holding my own against LA Ermor (it was the first all-nation game), for a little while atleast, until Pan's sneak-priests pulled my Dominion out from under me.

[ano]

Actually then manual says "Preaching can only raise dominion as high as twice the level of the priest", so a H1 should be able to raise dominion to 2, 4 with a temple.
Is that right? Going from memory it doesn't seem to match when the game tells me preaching won't work.

From what I know, level 1 priest can preach up to dom level 2, 3 with temple. Level 2 priest can preach up to dom level 3, 5 with temple. So the math is
dom = lvl + 1 or
dom = lvl*2 + 1 (with temple)
I always use this numbers and they seem true.

[Lingchih]

Originally Posted by HoneyBadger

Sneaky little priests undid my triple 10 (Earth, Water, Nature if I remember correctly-Niefel doesn't need a water bless, by the way...) bless Niefel giants in an MP game.

I wasn't winning, but I was holding my own against LA Ermor (it was the first all-nation game), for a little while atleast, until Pan's sneak-priests pulled my Dominion out from under me.

You don't still hold a grudge, do you Honey?

[HoneyBadger]

Ofcourse not but I'll likely not forget it either...

[Epaminondas]

Originally Posted by HoneyBadger

Sneaky little priests undid my triple 10 (Earth, Water, Nature if I remember correctly-Niefel doesn't need a water bless, by the way...) bless Niefel giants in an MP game.

I wasn't winning, but I was holding my own against LA Ermor (it was the first all-nation game), for a little while atleast, until Pan's sneak-priests pulled my Dominion out from under me.

How is it possible to have a triple 10 bless and still play the game?! Did you have negative 3 on every scale and 1 dominion?

[HoneyBadger]

Not quite, but pretty close...

[Jarkko]

Originally Posted by Gandalf Parker

For lurking newbies:
Dont downplay the priests. They are easy to overlook but the name of the game is Dominions for a reason.

Somewhat OT (blood sacrificing is not your normal priests preaching), but I saw in a 4-player blitz game played last week (I was eliminated first through "normal" methods though :P) an awesome dominion kill from Abysia. From practical zero (after the two first of us were killed off) to full dominion kill in 6 turns. He made an excellent AAR on our private forum with pictures and all, I hope he'd post it here too, quite educational


Even "regular" priests together with Dominion 10 can be a suprising killer in a game. This does not include LA R'lyeh or Ermor, as they have other huge bonuses with a dominion spread and Dominion kill is what they will attempt by default.


The following strategy is something I love with Pangaea (cheap temples and stealthy preachers), the sad point is of course that when people realise what you are attempting, they will forget all their internal quarrels and try to bring you down fast (you effectively become an Ermor or R'lyeh in their eyes) It works better in single-play though, but nobody prevents one from occasionally trying it in MP

Send in the H1 (or higher, if you just have access to them ) priests in bunches to provinces without your dominion, build a temple and convert the province by preaching. Move on to the next to do the same. If you have stealthy preachers, send them in to hostile lands to preach the words of wisdom. With areas around your capital getting to Dominion 10, your dominion will start to roll until it reaches the avalanche point and nothing can stop it anymore (with dominion 10 provinces and plentiful temple checks the dominion has nowhere else to spread except to hostile dominion). If you also can blood-sacrifice (like EA Pan or Sauromatia for an example), just before the avalance effect becomes apparent, start blood-sacrificing like mad.

[Crevan]

Stealthy preachers? Huh, they`re quite good when you use them with attacking enchantments...but I like to use priests as battle mages
MA Marignon can summon angels and (!) seraphs - and powerful mage-priests in Capital. If you are playing against Oni, Ernor or any player, who using undead/demon commanders, just 2-3 priests with 2-3 lvl Holy can easily destroy everything on the battlefield. Banishment kill ANY undead (Pretender too) with single strike

[thejeff]

Banishment is unlikely to kill undead pretenders with a single strike. It does MR resisted hp damage. On a lucky roll it could kill a low hp pretender outside of it's dominion, but I wouldn't rely on it for killing any undead thugs or SCs.
It's great for blowing away hordes of undead/demonic chaff, especially if you've got high level priests. Powerful single undead require other measures.

[Crevan]

Originally Posted by thejeff

Banishment is unlikely to kill undead pretenders with a single strike. It does MR resisted hp damage.

Seraph with holy sword kills Ghost King on Deathmatch with single strike. Just yesterday. I lol`d

Originally Posted by thejeff

It's great for blowing away hordes of undead/demonic chaff, especially if you've got high level priests. Powerful single undead require other measures.

Great massacre: five priests l.3, one angel with guards and about 25-30 prov.def. vs 200+ undeads of Ernor. Enemy failed to capture my prov.