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February 20th, 2008, 01:41 AM
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What happenes?: I break siege, new army moves in.
So what happenes if you break siege, kill the sieging army, and a new army moves in? Will there be two battles with both armies or just one?
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February 20th, 2008, 03:35 AM
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Re: What happenes?: I break siege, new army moves
Well, according to my manual; if you succeed in your break siege, then movement based battles would occur, so you would then fight a defensive fight against the new army.
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February 20th, 2008, 04:45 AM
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Re: What happenes?: I break siege, new army moves
Thinking back now, I think when the enemy has an army at the castle, you break siege, and the enemy "backs up" the army with a new army, both armies would be combined in the ONE battle, HOWEVER...
my situation is different. There's TWO enemies. Enemy A is sieging. I break. Enemy B moves in. Is there a battle with B or no?
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February 20th, 2008, 04:52 AM
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Re: What happenes?: I break siege, new army moves
Assuming none of the armies are using magical movement, the turn resolution sequence is:
12. Friendly Movement. All movement ending in a friendly province takes place.
13. Other Movement. All other movement, including break siege.
14. Movement battles.
15. Castle storming.
One question is, what is the affiliation of the "new army" that moves in? Here is how it is supposed to work, according to the manual, assuming the Besieged army does a break siege:
If the Moving Army is the same nation as the Besieged Army, then the Moving Army and the Besieged Army will group together and fight a single battle against the Sieging Army.
If the Moving Army is the same nation as the Sieging Army, then the Moving Army and the Sieging Army will group together and fight a single battle against the Besieged Army.
If the Moving Army is a third nation, then one of two possibilities can occur, randomly:
1) The Moving Army fights the Sieging Army, and the victor then fights a subsequent battle against the Besieged Army
or
2) The Besieged Army fights the Sieging Army, and the victor then fights a subsequent battle against the Moving Army
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February 20th, 2008, 07:18 AM
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Re: What happenes?: I break siege, new army moves
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vfb said:
If the Moving Army is the same nation as the Besieged Army, then the Moving Army and the Besieged Army will group together and fight a single battle against the Sieging Army.
If the Moving Army is the same nation as the Sieging Army, then the Moving Army and the Sieging Army will group together and fight a single battle against the Besieged Army.
If the Moving Army is a third nation, then one of two possibilities can occur, randomly:
1) The Moving Army fights the Sieging Army, and the victor then fights a subsequent battle against the Besieged Army
or
2) The Besieged Army fights the Sieging Army, and the victor then fights a subsequent battle against the Moving Army
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Replace all occurences of "besieged army" with "siege breaking army". Battles from movement phase happen like vfb wrote. Then, if there are still commanders left that were set to "storm castle", those proceed to fight the defenders.
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February 20th, 2008, 07:40 AM
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Re: What happenes?: I break siege, new army moves
Yeah, that's what I meant by "assuming the Besieged army does a break siege". Bah, would have been clearer if I just wrote it the way you suggest.
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February 20th, 2008, 07:44 AM
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Re: What happenes?: I break siege, new army moves
It's the easiest to think of a siege break as a zero distance movement. Battle's outside, the usual rules concerning battles from movement apply.
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