Gently Murderous Winter? - Page 2

jutetrea · #11 June 5th, 2007, 07:36 PM

On the subject of artillery spells, what works vs EA Nief? Possibly disease at least hoping afflictions accumulate... with such high HP and cold resist it would take like 10 castings of flames from above it seems.

Shovah32 · #12 June 5th, 2007, 07:39 PM

A couple of flames from afar due to their weakness to fire? Not too useful using artillery spells against a few, high health units unless they are extremely costly(well equipped SCs and such) so i wouldnt even bother casting unless he has a VERY large army.

MaxWilson · #13 June 5th, 2007, 08:28 PM

Vs. Niefelheim? I doubt Beckoning would be cost-effective, given their high MR. Leprosy would help, but take forever to kill them. Flames From The Sky doesn't kill them but can sometimes give afflictions (you'd probably need 2 or 3 to actually kill more than 10% or so of the units).

Niefelheim is basically not vulnerable to artillery spells. You could try assassination spells instead, or battlefield enchantments like Plague (Woundflame) and Astral Tempest (on teleporting SCs if necessary).

-Max

HoneyBadger · #14 June 5th, 2007, 08:34 PM

As something of a Niefel expert-or atleast a Niefel madman-the worst low-level thing we regularly encouter is Curse. It has regular success even against high MR, it targets Niefel Jarls as well as troops, and it makes those expensive, melee giants more vulnerable to afflictions. It won't kill a giant by itself, but enough of them will hurt a lot, in the long run.

Saxon · #15 June 6th, 2007, 02:12 AM

Max,

Good points, but I did not provide two bits of info. First, I am playing as Abysia! I don't actually want to push the cold scale down. Second, it is a big, long term choke point, so I have 51 PD. Protecting that investment was important, so pulling out was not an attractive option. I do not normally put such levels of PD down, but in key locations where you expect multiple attacks, it is a valuable tool.

Why was Abysia casting Murderous Winter? Well, obviously I did not understand it well to start with. Also, the water gems were not terribly valuable to me otherwise and I figured that knocking out half an army would be a good use of them.