Vampire Queen + Underrated Pretenders?

[Edi]

EA Ulm can actually get all elements at lv 2 natively, though the only one they consistently get that way is earth. It still gets them a wide variety of useful stuff, both in forging and combat spells. They can boost water up to 4 with a E1W2 smith by forging water bracelet and then robe of the sea.

Shamans can get both death and fire as random so EA Ulm has the ability to forge skull of fire straight out of the box with a little luck. By the time you hit Construction 6, you should have one E1F1D1 shaman. If you want boosters in all the elemental paths, then your pretender should take care of the air and fire deficiency, in which case a phoenix will do nicely. If you also want astral, then some other pretender which can cover all three paths and you're set.

But this thread is getting seriously off topic with this EA Ulm stuff. We can start a new thread on that one and copy the posts from here. We should concentrate on the under-used pretenders.

[Shovah32]

Well the lord of war is basically the poor mans cyclops and I have still not seen him used. I dont think ive seen any green dragons used yet as the red/blue can get nice single blesses and useful skill boosts. The manticore also seems under-used, the wyrm generally being the magicless pretender of choice.

[Gandalf Parker]

I have a tendency to automatically want to explore under-used anything. Especially in this game when they tend to offer some fantastic surprises. So under-used pretenders tend to be my favorites.

[Meglobob]

Shovah32 said:
Well the lord of war is basically the poor mans cyclops and I have still not seen him used. I dont think ive seen any green dragons used yet as the red/blue can get nice single blesses and useful skill boosts. The manticore also seems under-used, the wyrm generally being the magicless pretender of choice.

Well, in MP I have seen the lord of war, green dragon and manticore used once each to be exact. Of the 3 green dragon was most effective. I agree though they are not a popular choice well Wyrms, Blue dragons are very, very popular.

In MP should I want a tough pretender I always look to a wrym/blue dragon/cyclops first.

The underused in MP pretenders are really for fun or roleplaying in SP play I think...MP's just too competitive and ruthless.

[Archonsod]

Depends on the other players I guess

I've never saw the titan pretender types used much (Lady of Rivers, Lady of Fortune and the like).

[Jazzepi]

I've had good luck using lady of rivers to get to a high bless with few points. Her dominion 3 three and water skill work well together if you just want a single powerful bless. She ends up being imprisoned, but hey, you can't have everything!

Jazzepi