Tip: Site Searching Strategy

[Teraswaerto]

Academy Underneath seems pretty common though. Seen it in both games where I was using Voice of Tiamat extensively.

[Micah]

Looking at the site DB there are 3 possibilities for underwater forts from magic sites:

W1: academy underneath, uncommon freq. (NOT unique)
E2: firbolg fortress, Unique, may also appear on land, uncommon freq.
N1: kelp fort, non-unique, sea only (not deep sea), common freq.

I think I got that right, although last night I was making a lot of dumb math mistakes talking about growth scales, so feel free to double-check.

[Edi]

Ah, okay. My mistake then, thanks for pointing it out, Micah. I'm not quite as current on the uniqueness in Dom3 as I was in Dom2 since I just copied those stats and assumed them to be accurate until DrPraetorius did his code diving expedition into the realm of magic sites, at which points I just copy-pasted a few columns and a few formulas to display things and drag-copied them downward without specifically going over each item separately.

I just came to work and I'll probably check it anyway when I get home, to get it out of the way.

[Meglobob]

Teraswaerto said:
Academy Underneath seems pretty common though. Seen it in both games where I was using Voice of Tiamat extensively.

Academy Underneath can't be unique, I have had in 3/4 games where I have been searching water provinces.

[Edi]

EDIT: Academy Underneath is unique. It's an uncommon site, so it will appear in most games, especially since the number of possible underwater sites is much lower than the number of sites that can appear on land.

This much can be said of ALL unique sites: They can have any frequency, meaning that there are unique sites that are common. In most games of any size, especially if the map is large and site frequency is high, they will be found. If you found several of the same site, it was not unique.

The rare uniques are another matter, because rare sites only appear if the reroll for site determination also comes up with a rare site (all rare sites are rerolled on first occurrence).

Note that unique sites may appear more than once if they were scripted in the map file. The reason is that sites are randomly assigned first and only after that the map file scripting is added.

[Edi]

I think they count as mountains in terms of allowable sites. No idea if they have the same site frequency as mountains. They count as plains for movement.

[archaeolept]

border mountains, or "edgemount," is its own terrain type. If mountain allowable sites can occur there, the database should be updated with at least an annotation.

I still suspect edgemounts count as plains, though.

[Lingchih]

Dunno. I find a lot of Earth sites in border mountains.

[Crevan]

If province has "Mountain" mark in description - it`s mountain, sure If there`s mountains on map, but no "mountain" terrain type in description - you may surprise, but it`s...right, it`s NO mountain
Also I always check first - with any type of easy scan, which is possible to my mages (e.g. Auspex, Gnom Lore etc.), and then (late, with good gem income, which I can trade to pearls) scan with Acashic Record. Some rare and powerful locations possible to detect only with ARec - and just one site with recruitable Trolls, Crystal Castle, Loremasters or powerful magic bonus can change balance to your side in no time

[thejeff]

There aren't be any sites only possible to detect with Akashic record.
There may be sites your nation doesn't have the paths to find without using it, but that's different.