OT: a nice RPG-ish game?

[deccan]

Hey, no one mentioned KOTOR yet?

[Gandalf Parker]

NeverWinter Nights was rather sparse when I got it but lately if you reload it and go looking you will find that the promise of MODs has indeed turned it into something worthwhile. In fact some of them have created things which completly changed my view of what was going to happen with it.

[Lex]

true. Knights Of The Old Republic was pretty good. Cool story, although it was waaay too easy (I played the entire game solo, just so the game wouldn't be stupidly easy). Kinda like NeverwinterNights, where it gets too easy after a short bit.

Still, its worth playing just for the story. And it used alignment pretty well. Anyone with an XBOX should be able to play Fable (formally known as Project Ego). That just came out, and its designed by Peter Molyneux (of Black&White fame). Fable should be, without a doubt, an increadible game. But bastards don't seem to be porting it to PC.

Edit: I actually bought the XBOX when it came out specificaly for Morrowind (I'm a huge Elder Scrolls fan) and if you remember, it came out on Xbox several months before PC). I've since given away my Xbox, but Fable is actually tempting me to get my Xbox back)

[Boron]

Gandalf Parker said:
NeverWinter Nights was rather sparse when I got it but lately if you reload it and go looking you will find that the promise of MODs has indeed turned it into something worthwhile. In fact some of them have created things which completly changed my view of what was going to happen with it.

can you change rules too a bit with the mods ?

cause what disappointed me a lot in base nwn with the 2 expansions was that though the rules were well implemented some things were extremely overpowered .
e.g. a weapon master / fighter with 2 kukris with critical hit from 10-20 was just boring , while playing as a very special , rpgwise cool character like a bard becoming a harpner as second class was too implayable too .

all kinds of fightercharacters like weapon master , monk or special bard were just too strong i think .
in pvp though isaacs greater missile swarm was unresistable iirc so there mages were unbeatable .
perhaps my experience there was too limited though .

[Kel]

Most of my Favorites you have already played (Planescape/fallout).

I only have one to add that hasn't been mentioned:
Wizardry 7-8

- Kel

PS: I didn't like Gothic, personally. Never played the second one, though.

[Lex]

i played them all as magic Users, and it was also a boring because you where unbeatable. But that was the main idea: you where supposed to be a legendary hero of almost godlike proportions. I loved that sense of power in the Baldurs Gate expansions, but in Neverwinter expansions, it didn't feel balanced enough.

I been finding that RPGs recently, in an effort to appeal to the massmarket, have been making the games too easy so that new players don't get slaughtered. It kinda makes you miss the brilliance of Diablo where enemies are always perfectly matched to your level. Obviously, in more tactical RPGs it becomes alot harder to balance for all players.

[Boron]

oh 2 oldies come to my mind now too :

dsa 2 - sternenschweif
dsa 3 - schatten �ber riva

they are very good if you have any sympathy with the das schwarze auge rpg universum at all .

revenant i liked too . it is an classic too . included beat them up elements in a very unique way which i liked

for a mix of strategy + rpg :
- disciples 2
- jagged alliance 2

both are very recommendable .



finally if you like magic the gathering :

magic the gathering with both extensions (spells of the ancients and duels of the planewalkers they were called iirc) is just great . it was made from sid meier .
the main part was the shandalar world where you started with a weak character with only about 30-40 randomly chosen cards and then you had to defeat monsters in duels , do quests etc.

a perfect combination between MTG and a rpg

[Lex]

Kel said:
Most of my Favorites you have already played (Planescape/fallout).

I only have one to add that hasn't been mentioned:
Wizardry 7-8

- Kel

PS: I didn't like Gothic, personally. Never played the second one, though.

if you're a game collector, you might want to track down some of the classic Ultimas.. or Bard's Tale.. oh, if we're gonna go down memory lane, Betrayal At Krondor still holds a place in my heart.

[Boron]

oh and one brilliant action rpg :

Vampires - The Masquerade .

it came out 2000 or 2001 and had really good graphics at that time . even now the graphics are still quite nice .
the ambiente was very good and the concept of the game too :
it was divided into 4 acts .
the first 2 were in the middle ages and the Last 2 were in the presence .
this way it was almost like 2 games

especially in the presence the fights were just cool
some of my vampires had machine guns while some were still equipped with medieval swords and other melee weapons .

the whole game i felt it was designed with love and there were in each act lots of very funny and humorous little surprises or especially thematic things

[Kel]

Lex said:

if you're a game collector, you might want to track down some of the classic Ultimas.. or Bard's Tale.. oh, if we're gonna go down memory lane, Betrayal At Krondor still holds a place in my heart.

Hehe, I played them all, from Wiz 1 to Tunnels & Trolls and Wizards Crown. Wizardry 8, though, isn't really that old. I don't recall the exact date (someone will probably look it up ) but it is more in line with Planescape and the like.

- Kel