Yet another Clamhoarding, Castling Discussion

[Graeme Dice]

Originally posted by Norfleet:
I do not call being smacked with a ruler for failure to pay attention in class child abuse. I do not call being spanked for failure to follow the rules child abuse. But I doubt you're old enough to understand. You weren't around then. You don't remember what it was like.

How old I am is irrelevant, as are both of your examples above, since neither qualifies for the "beating" descriptor. When you say that children aren't beaten enough, you are stating that children aren't physically injured enough through repetitive blows, since that's basically what the term means.

[Endoperez]

Originally posted by Norfleet:

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Originally posted by Graeme Dice:
It's nice to know that you approve of child abuse along with all your other psychological problems.

I do not call being smacked with a ruler for failure to pay attention in class child abuse. I do not call being spanked for failure to follow the rules child abuse. But I doubt you're old enough to understand. You weren't around then. You don't remember what it was like.

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Neither were I, and I am happy about it! It is an effective way, I believe that, but I would not like to be in the receiving end... And whatever you think, it is possible that the 'education' leaves the child with a trauma or some other psychological imbalance. I believe that it would cause problems more often than not, and that the consequencing problems would often be severe, but understand that others can have very different views.

I understand that punishment is needed, but I don't think pain is good. Besides, allowing some physical punishments (smacking by ruler) would most propably leave a hole-in-the-law big enough for some people to crawl through after intentionally hurting children.
Unfortunately, some kids seem to have grown up knowing no-one can hurt them and thinking they cannot be punished. I don't know what I would do for one, mind you, and hope I never have to worry for someone like that.

Originally posted by Graeme Dice:

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Originally posted by Norfleet:
I do not call being smacked with a ruler for failure to pay attention in class child abuse. I do not call being spanked for failure to follow the rules child abuse. But I doubt you're old enough to understand. You weren't around then. You don't remember what it was like.

How old I am is irrelevant, as are both of your examples above, since neither qualifies for the "beating" descriptor. When you say that children aren't beaten enough, you are stating that children aren't physically injured enough through repetitive blows, since that's basically what the term means.

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Or just possibly he was exaggerating for humourous effect.

Hard to believe you seriously think Norfleet was advocating child-abuse during a discussion about Dominions 2 strategy. Looks like an attack of deliberate obtuseness to me.

[Blitz]

How old I am is irrelevant, as are both of your examples above, since neither qualifies for the "beating" descriptor. When you say that children aren't beaten enough, you are stating that children aren't physically injured enough through repetitive blows, since that's basically what the term means.

Once again, Grahame to the aid of hypothetical children who may be wounded by Norfleet's throw-away remark. These Boards are truly fortunate to have a champion of the people unafraid to take the thread as far off topic as needed. How I look forward to Grahame's next attempt to discredit his percieved enemies with commentary completely irrelevant to the topic at hand.

[Cainehill]

Originally posted by Graeme Dice:

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Originally posted by Norfleet:
I do not call being smacked with a ruler for failure to pay attention in class child abuse. I do not call being spanked for failure to follow the rules child abuse. But I doubt you're old enough to understand. You weren't around then. You don't remember what it was like.

How old I am is irrelevant, as are both of your examples above, since neither qualifies for the "beating" descriptor. When you say that children aren't beaten enough, you are stating that children aren't physically injured enough through repetitive blows, since that's basically what the term means.

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Neither qualifies for "beating" descriptor? Y'know, I might agree - being one of those kids who was beaten, with a barber strop, with a walking stick, once with a rifle cleaning rod.

But frankly - the law in the USA calls a spanking or smacking someone with a ruler child abuse, and sometimes even assault. And lots and lots of bleeding heart liberals do call those "beatings", and report parents to the police for child abuse because they "beat" their children (aka, spanked them). And the children are taken away, and sometimes criminal charges are filed, and all too often the parents need to spend boat loads of money on a lawyer to get the children back, not to mention to try to avoid a criminal conviction.

In the meantime, other children are beaten to death, in areas where the neighbors don't ever call the authorities, or where the case workers are too overworked and simply don't follow through.

Color me mildly disgusted, that personal animosity from a game is enough to get people accusing one another of advocating child abuse.

Feh.

I think we've already discussed this in a previous thread where Norfleet advocated "beatings" in which the Developers were involved. Whatever your personal feelings on the topic of child rearing, the use of physical punishment or not. Or the situation of Child Abuse and society's impact on it should not be taken to a personal level.

[Graeme Dice]

Originally posted by Mark the Merciful:
Or just possibly he was exaggerating for humourous effect.

I doubt that he's capable of such exaggerations.

Hard to believe you seriously think Norfleet was advocating child-abuse during a discussion about Dominions 2 strategy. Looks like an attack of deliberate obtuseness to me.

Yes, I do believe that he was advocating just that. After all, it fits right in with his persona that came out in the spyware thread.

[Graeme Dice]

Originally posted by Blitz:
How I look forward to Grahame's next attempt to discredit his percieved enemies with commentary completely irrelevant to the topic at hand.

You might want to learn how to spell before you make an attempt at pithy remarks.

[Cainehill]

Originally posted by Graeme Dice:

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Originally posted by Blitz:
How I look forward to Grahame's next attempt to discredit his percieved enemies with commentary completely irrelevant to the topic at hand.

You might want to learn how to spell before you make an attempt at pithy remarks.

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If you can't debate or rebut the content of what they said, attack their spelling?

[Norfleet]

Originally posted by Cainehill:
If you can't debate or rebut the content of what they said, attack their spelling?

Hey, don't diss the spelling attack. It's a time-honored distractionary technique that's proven its worth on Internet forums and chatrooms world-wide.