THE best strategy game of all times! :D - Page 2

pathfinder · #11 February 10th, 2001, 05:29 PM

hehe, as you may note, I am NOT a programmer at all. So this ability (to a very limited degree) to script the AI is kinda neat for this old fart. BTW I also,

, had to learn FORTRAN IV

Darn glad I do NOT have to make a living doing this!

[This message has been edited by pathfinder (edited 10 February 2001).]

ColdSteel · #12 February 10th, 2001, 05:54 PM

Well, I'm a programmer, though these days they've got me doing so much project management crap that I hardly have time for it anymore.

I've taught myself Visual Basic, Perl, C++ and a few others over the years. Once you learn one or two, they're all pretty much alike in most ways. The object oriented stuff and data structures were a bit different for an old procedure language coder, but even those concepts eventually fell before my massive intellect (uh, yeah, riiiight).

I think programmers are drawn to SE4 like a moth to the flame. I love programming because you get to build something neat and solve problems. SE4 offers that in spades. And with the data files thrown in so you can mod away?? Well, it's Nirvana! (no, no, not Teen Spirit). Just wait until you see my new race and shipset.

nmoppa · #13 February 10th, 2001, 06:51 PM

Promises, promises, Coldsteel.

. Anyway, I believe you and agree. Once more, if you need betatesting, contact me at [email protected]. Way to go, but finally THIS is the game that will be in the books of history long after we have met the Great Maker

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PERHAPS THIS IS A GOOD DAY TO DIE <Worf facing another critical fight>

Jon Brave · #14 February 10th, 2001, 07:00 PM

COBOL: an Object-Oriented Version, and ability to make Web pages! Whatever next? Does anybody think I should ditch VC++ & MFC for this?

ColdSteel · #15 February 10th, 2001, 07:05 PM

I won't lie. I like good games where I can find them and Stars! Supernova Genesis looks awfully promising to me if they can ever find a new publisher for it and can get it out the door (now that Empire has bailed on them). If that happens I will buy it and try it out (as I have countless others). The development team there is also very responsive to the Stars! community (like SE4) and I think it is the only game right now that can give SE4 any real competition.

I think the 4x genre has room for more than one good and successful game. Successes by more than one company just means that more of these games will be developed in the future. This is all to the advantage of us gamers.

SE4 has a lot going for it (being first out of the gate, so to speak) but it still needs to evolve with the future patches to correct some serious shortcomings and to realize its full potential. With Aaron's track record to date, I think there's an excellent chance of that happening.

nmoppa · #16 February 10th, 2001, 07:35 PM

Coldsteel, I didn't say or implied you lie. I agree in full what you wrote. I too am looking forward to Stars! Supernova, in fact I preordered it way back through Chips & Bits. Like you said, it's only good IF there are real competitors to games like SE IV. However, let's agree to this, THERE IS NONE

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PERHAPS THIS IS A GOOD DAY TO DIE <Worf facing another critical fight>

ColdSteel · #17 February 10th, 2001, 08:24 PM

nmoppa, I didn't think you were attacking me or saying/implying anything like that.

What I meant is, I just have to be honest with everyone here about the fact that I don't think SE4 is perfect and that I think other games may come along later in the future that are better in some respects. Nothing is forever. Right now SE4 is the king of the heap. Best ever. But there's plenty of room for improvements and Aaron will have to work to keep it there. That's all I meant.

nmoppa · #18 February 10th, 2001, 09:21 PM

I fully agree, Coldsteel.

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PERHAPS THIS IS A GOOD DAY TO DIE <Worf facing another critical fight>

raynor · #19 February 10th, 2001, 10:36 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Jon Brave:
COBOL: an Object-Oriented Version, and ability to make Web pages! Whatever next? Does anybody think I should ditch VC++ & MFC for this?

You should ditch *both* of those for Delphi. IMHO, Delphi is the best RAD (Rapid Application and Development) language out there. It has great support for databases, the internet, etc. Oh, and by the way, what do you think SEIV was written in?

raynor · #20 February 10th, 2001, 10:41 PM

quote:
Originally posted by ColdSteel:
COBOL is also really good at producing formatted reports. I kinda enjoyed writing COBOL programs. Oh, the memories.. takes me back...(sigh).

A 'C/C++' programmer like me goes into convulsions when he hears someone say they *enjoy?!?* writing programs in COBOL.

Help! I'm having a seizure!! Someone, quick! Bring me an obfuscated C program to look at! Better if you put the entire program on just one line!

Programming Axioms:
1. Every program can be reduced by one line.
2. Every program has at least one bug.

Corollary:
Every program can be reduced to one line that doesn't work!